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  • #16
    200Apples
    -DVC- Mojave Lever Crew
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Dec 2011
    • 7217

    Hornady cautions handloaders on every page that lists date for cartridges that contain these bullet types.

    And in my post above it should read, "a spitzer bullets' ogive is longer than a rnfp revolver bullet's ogive." A bullet ogive extends from the very tip of the bullet to the full-diameter driving band and/or bullet shank.
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    • #17
      Spyder
      CGN Contributor
      • Mar 2008
      • 17026

      I bought hundreds of rounds of the Leverevolution 45-70 a year and a half ago, as it was the cheapest thing around. Shot a bunch of it up out of my old JM Marlin, intending to reload the brass. Then I found out about the shorter cases. Annoying. I still haven't gotten around to deciding if I want to bother with the hassle of loading them or not, although I have so much I should just buy the die made for them and do it.

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      • #18
        Calif Hunter
        Veteran Member
        • Aug 2003
        • 3279

        Originally posted by Spyder
        I bought hundreds of rounds of the Leverevolution 45-70 a year and a half ago, as it was the cheapest thing around. Shot a bunch of it up out of my old JM Marlin, intending to reload the brass. Then I found out about the shorter cases. Annoying. I still haven't gotten around to deciding if I want to bother with the hassle of loading them or not, although I have so much I should just buy the die made for them and do it.
        Can't you adjust the regular die to seat and crimp the bullets in the shorter case? Like loading .44 SPL with .44 Mag dies? I just have 20 or so of the shorter cases for my .45-70, mostly as live factory rounds that I haven't shot yet.

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        • #19
          Spyder
          CGN Contributor
          • Mar 2008
          • 17026

          I haven't tried yet, but anecdotal stories from other reloaders online say that most brands of dies are too long for the top of the case to reach the crimp. Some people have milled off the bottom of the die so there are less threads and that works too.

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          • #20
            Calif Hunter
            Veteran Member
            • Aug 2003
            • 3279

            I see that the info on the Lee factory crimp die states that it is not compatible with the Hornady Leverevolution cases. Lee will shorten your factory crimp die for $15.00 to make it work. They need a sample case.

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            • #21
              Spyder
              CGN Contributor
              • Mar 2008
              • 17026

              They're not doing any custom stuff right now. I've been trying to get a set of dies made for my .255 Dean, but no one will make them during covid.

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              • #22
                J.R.W.
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2012
                • 558

                I use a lee hand loader to crimp my shortened hornady brass works well if you have one in your reloading stuff for 45-70

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                • #23
                  Kappy
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 5349

                  Originally posted by Fastattack
                  Do share ..

                  Sent from my SM-A505U using Tapatalk
                  I'll also add that I've seen enough people screw up reloading, including people who don't have the excuse of "just starting." I've seen mags shoot out the bottom of 1911s, cracking a grip, people bulge their barrels after trying to shoot through squibs (on a nice Sig P238), and a barrel in a 1903 Springfield split like a banana peel, blowing up the stock. All ugly.

                  I'm not saying I'm any better. I've had my share of squibs when I first started reloading, plus one or two when learning how to use my Dillon. Of course, I never blew up a gun...

                  I agree: if you don't know the maker, don't shoot it.
                  Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.

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