Sig Sauer Cross Trigger Issue

[RideWest]

Well it looks like three of us now own one on the forum. Mine runs fine so far, and no I don't think they are junk. At least several hundred people have them on Snipers Hide, no one else has reported a trigger issue out side of Nutnfancy.

[LynnJr]

Ridewest
Since you own one I don't think the gun in the video was broken. Most likely the action bolts weren't tight enough and it bound up the trigger.
I say that because the gun got progressively worse. Usually when they break they break.
Lifting the bolt handle a little bit unbinds the cocking piece allowing the firing pin to fall.

[RideWest]

Cross Sear

Hi Lynn that does seem to describe the video. The rifle was fired by the original owner and then used a couple of days for the video. But the Cross doesn't have normal action screws. Its a once piece chassis, there is a large pin and perhaps the AR style safety selector that holds the trigger group in the chassis.

The trigger would have to be removed from the bottom as a unit. The sear is part of a channel that the bolt travels over and locks on top of (there is a matching piece on the bottom of the bolt. I assume not having owned a bolt action before, that the trigger releases the sear, which allows the cocking mechanism at the back of the bolt to then release the firing pin.

I attached a picture of mine to show the sear, there are no action bolts at the bottom of the chassis. There is only the trigger weight set screw that you access through the hand guard. The rifle was being shot in the desert, I suppose it's possible that either debris managed to get into the gap behind the sear or some other set screw inside the trigger group did get loose.

Always looking to learn more!

[sfvshooter]

I wanted to pick one up, but I've noticed Sig Sauer seems to have problems on first generation firearms.

I purchased the MCX and had a broken part, went through the BCG recall, and after all that, it's not compatible with second gen/Virtus parts.

I saw videos about firing pin/primer drag on P365 pistols.

Hopefully everything will get sorted and when they release gen 2, I'll pick one up.

[LynnJr]

Hi Lynn that does seem to describe the video. The rifle was fired by the original owner and then used a couple of days for the video. But the Cross doesn't have normal action screws. Its a once piece chassis, there is a large pin and perhaps the AR style safety selector that holds the trigger group in the chassis.

The trigger would have to be removed from the bottom as a unit. The sear is part of a channel that the bolt travels over and locks on top of (there is a matching piece on the bottom of the bolt. I assume not having owned a bolt action before, that the trigger releases the sear, which allows the cocking mechanism at the back of the bolt to then release the firing pin.

I attached a picture of mine to show the sear, there are no action bolts at the bottom of the chassis. There is only the trigger weight set screw that you access through the hand guard. The rifle was being shot in the desert, I suppose it's possible that either debris managed to get into the gap behind the sear or some other set screw inside the trigger group did get loose.

Always looking to learn more!

On a typical bolt rifle when you pull the trigger the sear drops down a very small amount allowing the cocking piece to move forward.
If rotating the bolt allows the gun to fire the cocking piece isn't being released by the trigger.
Usually it's something binding like the trigger housing touching the stock mortise or the trigger guard.
An improperly adjusted trigger is where I would look if the bolt isn't a conventional style.
In the video it gets worse over time so that points to something getting looser or tighter with time or coming out of adjustment rather than a part breakage issue.
Maybe ask the guy in the video what happened.

[sigstroker]

There's good and bad with that. The Gen 2 will almost certainly be a few hundred dollars more. They might be heavier too <cough>Virtus<cough>.

[RideWest]

Cross Recall

Update: Sig decided that the trigger issue shown in the video above will be addressed with a recall. At his time Sig is just trying to get people to resister for the recall on their web site, so they have your contact information and can communicate the next steps to you.

There is a life time warranty for the original owner, if the rifle does need to sent back, Sig will cover all the cost involved. Sig is moving forward pretty quickly based on the video and I assume they are trying to determine the scope and a potential fix.

I did register my rifle online for the recall this morning, and also called their customer service number (see below) for more information. However, they couldn't provide any details yet, but will be sending out emails to update everyone who has registered for the recall:

www.sigsauer.com/crossrecall or call Sig at (603-610-3000, option #1)

I suggested just going on line, it only takes a minute to provide your serial number and contact information. Sig does not know if this is limited to certain serial numbers or not, so no benefit to calling Sig customer service this week and you will be on hold for a long time.

[Charlie_Bravo]

Purchased the Sig Cross in 6.5 and was waiting my 10 days. Just got a call from the gun store that my purchase has been canceled and refunded due to a recall.

[Fjold]

Well Sig marketed it as a "Cross" between a hunting and precision rifle. The shorter barrel was a concession to the hunting crowd. They will be releasing a 24" barrel for it.

Interesting, I'm part of the hunting crowd and except for a Mannlicher stocked Ruger No. 1 and a Savage 99 with 20" barrels (neither of which I have hunted with) all of my hunting rifles have 22 - 27" barrels.

[stikman33]

Yeah, I saw the recall information earlier today and registered for it.

Got to go out and shoot it this morning. in 10mph wind with gusts in the 15mph range, and my amateur long range status... consistent 3 shot groups at .750 MOA, shot a 5 shot group at 1.25 MOA. Literally the first time I've spent significant time behind a scoped long range rifle. I've played around with them, but first one I've actually owned.

The gun will outshoot me, that's for sure.

[John Browning]

What a mess. This rifle is hot garbage out of the gate.

[RideWest]

Sig is new at bolt actions, they took a bunch of different features and put them in one light weight rife. The stock is a one piece monolithic design, so they couldn't use an off the shelf bolt action or AR trigger.

The trigger feels good, but if it proves faulty, Sig will replace it. The unfortunate part is they can't simply ship out replacement triggers. The whole rifle will need to go back for the swap or repair.

This is my only Sig, I can understand if people have been bitten by other new releases. But they did a lot of field testing on this rifle. The release was delayed a couple of months to hopefully get it right.

I personally been waiting since February. So if Sig decides it's a bigger manufacturing problem beyond one defective rifle. I'll send it back. Not having it for a few weeks isn't a big deal for me. Long term I think it will prove to be a great rifle.

I get everyone has different needs and requirements, and there are lots of other very good rifles out there. It's nice to have choices, hopefully we will continue to have them. If someone doesn't like a particular rifle, buy something else. What I personally don't do is bash a rifle online that I don't own and never shot.

[sigstroker]

Purchased the Sig Cross in 6.5 and was waiting my 10 days. Just got a call from the gun store that my purchase has been canceled and refunded due to a recall.

That sucks. They don't even give you the choice of taking it and sending it back?

[Cypriss32]

Guess I need to check my serial number.

[LynnJr]

Cypress32
I would pull the gun down and just make sure everything is tight and add some clear fingernail polish so nothing backs off.
Who knows what the guy in the video might have done.