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  • jcwatchdog
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2012
    • 2593

    Waiting for a Marlin backorder....

  • #2
    LindenBruce
    Member
    • Mar 2016
    • 380

    like a lot of manufacturers, they don't produce their entire product line every day of the year. They go in batches. Delivery times have been greatly extended on ANYTHING you order right now due to panic buying. Good luck and have patience. B.

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    • #3
      baih777
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Jul 2011
      • 5680

      Originally posted by LindenBruce
      like a lot of manufacturers, they don't produce their entire product line every day of the year. They go in batches. Delivery times have been greatly extended on ANYTHING you order right now due to panic buying. Good luck and have patience. B.
      OP might be out of.luck.
      Ruger bought Marlin in the Remington bankruptcy. Nobody knows what.is.going to happen.
      Been gone too long. It's been 15 to 20 years since i had to shelf my guns. Those early years sucked.
      I really miss the good old Pomona Gun Shows.
      I'm Back.

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      • #4
        1859sharps
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2008
        • 2261

        Like already suggested, they produce the product in batches and that production is likely triggered by X amount of orders from key customers, ie the wholesalers.

        However, in the case of Marlin products, there are a couple additional factors.

        1. transfer of ownership process. Marlin tooling and other assets are in the process of being transitioned to Ruger.

        2. Even if there is an agreement for Remington to continue briefly producing Marlin's for Ruger during the early part of the transition (paper work part), the current owners of Remington do not yet have their FFL to allowing them to actually manufacturer any serialized parts.

        I suspect there will be a dry few months for those product lines. what what was shipped is all there is available.

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        • #5
          1859sharps
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2008
          • 2261

          Workers at the sprawling Remington factory in this upstate New York village took pride in a local gunmaking tradition stretching back to the days of flintlock rifles. Jacquie Sweeney and her husband w...

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          • #6
            golfish
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Mar 2013
            • 10111



            OP, I'd look for a used gun on GB or the Market place..I don't think we will see any new production Marlins anytime soon.
            I hope you find what your looking for.
            It takes a lot of balls to play golf the way I do.
            Happiness is a warm gun.

            MLC, First 3

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            • #7
              M1NM
              Calguns Addict
              • Oct 2011
              • 7966

              You better shop for an alternative. I doubt Ruger will share profits by having someone else build a product. What did Ruger get in the deal? Name and patents. Those an the tooling? All that and the spare parts and existing inventory.
              Once Ruger has done an inventory of what they own they will have many meetings to decide what Marlin products are big enough sellers to continue to produce. Once that decision is made it will go to the engineers who will re-engineer the manufacturing process and parts materials and machining process to make it fit within the profitable Ruger way of doing things. Finally in 12-18 months you may see some Ruglins or Margers.

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                1859sharps
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2008
                • 2261

                Originally posted by M1NM
                I doubt Ruger will share profits by having someone else build a product.
                So no where I have seen it even hinted that Remington would build product for Ruger temporarily. That was just me making a point about delays for getting product back to dealers.

                BUT..profit is profit. they have several million to recoop. so if they wanted to make some profit now while working out details or building space etc, even paying Remington to build the rifles short term for them is still profit and it would keep the rifles on the market and people interested and buying and not giving up ground to competitors.

                BUT....

                It's not an option because I have now read in two different articles that Remington's new owners aren't even licensed to manufacture yet.

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                • #9
                  golfish
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 10111

                  Originally posted by 1859sharps
                  So no where I have seen it even hinted that Remington would build product for Ruger temporarily. That was just me making a point about delays for getting product back to dealers.

                  BUT..profit is profit. they have several million to recoop. so if they wanted to make some profit now while working out details or building space etc, even paying Remington to build the rifles short term for them is still profit and it would keep the rifles on the market and people interested and buying and not giving up ground to competitors.

                  BUT....

                  It's not an option because I have now read in two different articles that Remington's new owners aren't even licensed to manufacture yet.
                  I don't think Remington builds Marlins. Marlin was owned by the same company at one time but still a different shop.
                  It takes a lot of balls to play golf the way I do.
                  Happiness is a warm gun.

                  MLC, First 3

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                  • #10
                    smittty
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 6254

                    Ruger acquired the brand and equipment and are moving the factory to one of their factories. That's stated on Ruger's website.

                    Last week in the news it was reported that Remington laid off all their employees and are not giving any severance or accrued vacation, or benefits.

                    Does that sound like any guns are currently being made?

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                    • #11
                      1859sharps
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 2261

                      Originally posted by golfish
                      I don't think Remington builds Marlins. Marlin was owned by the same company at one time but still a different shop.
                      Remington built/builds pre sale Marlins because Remington owned them.

                      Remington's primary production was in NY and AL and based on "how Marlins are made" videos created while under Remington ownership, the lines were under Remington roofs....literally.

                      By the time Marlin was sold to Ruger, I am under the impression that Marlin as a company had ceased to exist, and been placed under Remington 100% as a brand.

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                      • #12
                        splithoof
                        Calguns Addict
                        • May 2015
                        • 5667

                        Remember the old “Ted Williams” line of Sears products? I actually have one of their Winchester produced 1894 .30-30 rifles, and I’m thinking that possibly “Marlin” will end up being another offshoot so to speak of Ruger, but with fewer actual offerings. A sort of “back of the catalog” section. As someone mentioned prior, this will take some time, after much study and meetings. With the current climate of production demands on the firearms industry these days, Ruger likely doesn’t have time to mess with Marlin for the moment, but has acquired the brand name and leftovers for a future project.
                        If anyone has actually placed an order and $$ to acquire a Marlin product, I would think they would be better off attempting to secure a refund, and then going to the used market, or looking for NOS leftovers. I’m sure there is some limited inventory out there, just be cautioned that manufacturer support for any problems is nonexistent.
                        Some of the later examples were a good starting point, as an example I have handled and shot one that Apples here worked over, and it was quite nice. If you are willing to do that, you can have something long before Ruger ever gets around to making anything.

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                        • #13
                          200Apples
                          -DVC- Mojave Lever Crew
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 7217

                          Good points made in the three preceding posts, to be sure.

                          However, once Ruger gets organized, I betcha they will do their best to preserve the Marlin brand. It's a gut feeling.

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                          • #14
                            1859sharps
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 2261

                            Originally posted by splithoof
                            I’m thinking that possibly “Marlin” will end up being another offshoot so to speak of Ruger, but with fewer actual offerings. A sort of “back of the catalog” section.
                            I can't see Ruger ditching the Marlin brand, at least anytime soon. it is too valuable, too recognizable etc.

                            I suppose it is possible they may plan to phase it out. But IF that is the plan, it will be done over time and at some point you are buying Ruger 336s or 1895s vs Marlin 336s and 1895s. heck they might even rename the product lines at some point. who knows.

                            Originally posted by splithoof
                            As someone mentioned prior, this will take some time, after much study and meetings. With the current climate of production demands on the firearms industry these days, Ruger likely doesn’t have time to mess with Marlin for the moment, but has acquired the brand name and leftovers for a future project.
                            Going to both agree and disagree with you here. Since 1996 I have worked for companies that manufacture. The product lines will start simple with the most popular products. For example, expect to see 336s in 30-30 as soon as is possible. Expect to see 1895s in 45-70 soon as possible. some of the less common variations, it will be a while if ever. But the most common, best selling version of the product will be out first.

                            So I do agree we will not see the entire Marlin catalog right away that we have been used to seeing. may never see the 2019 line up again either.

                            I disagree that Ruger isn't going to be jumping to get manufacturing Marlins as quickly as possible. As solid a company as Ruger is, 30 million is still a chunk of cash for them. They are also publicly traded. Spending 30 million on Marlin and not doing anything right away, not going to sit well with investors.

                            If I had to guess we will see Marlin rifles rolling off Ruger owned lines starting sometime next year. it will probably take some time, maybe 2 or 3 years from the day the lines start, to get manufacturing out put to 2019 levels and inventory levels to match demand.

                            The longer they wait to get back to production, the more people will be buying Henry, Mossberg, and Winchester. you don't spend 30 million, sit on the acquisition, and give up market share if you want to recoop your investment in a reasonable time.

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                            • #15
                              200Apples
                              -DVC- Mojave Lever Crew
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 7217

                              Originally posted by 1859sharps
                              Since 1996 I have worked for companies that manufacture. The product lines will start simple with the most popular products. For example, expect to see 336s in 30-30 as soon as is possible. Expect to see 1895s in 45-70 soon as possible. some of the less common variations, it will be a while if ever. But the most common, best selling version of the product will be out first.

                              And the .357 chambered Models 1894, because of SASS competion.

                              The Marlin 1894 and the Ruger New Vaquero would seem to be a very common pairing.





                              So I do agree we will not see the entire Marlin catalog right away that we have been used to seeing. may never see the 2019 line up again either.

                              The longer they wait to get back to production, the more people will be buying Henry, Mossberg, and Winchester. you don't spend 30 million, sit on the acquisition, and give up market share if you want to recoop your investment in a reasonable time.

                              Good point.
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