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  • beanz2
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Nov 2008
    • 12032

    Bipod height setting - lower or higher?

    What is the best height to set my bipod if I am shooting prone on a flat terrain with no land feature obstruction? My bipod only goes from 5" to 9".

    I find the higher it is, the more I rest on my supporting elbow. I keep my left hand under the stock (squeezing a sandbag), but the easier it is on my neck for longer shooting sessions. At the lowest position, I can keep my forearm almost flat on the ground and it feels much steadier, but it's hard on my neck.

    Maybe it's my imagination, but at lower bipod heights, the rifle also seems to recoil less.

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    lastinline
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2014
    • 2364

    Do whatever is more comfortable.
    Some stretching exercises prior to shooting may also help. Likely the best position is somewhere in the middle. If you are behind the glass for long periods, varying your position periodically will reduce muscle aches later.

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    • #3
      mtenenhaus
      Veteran Member
      • Jul 2007
      • 3416

      Copied from Outdoor Life : "The key to achieving consistent accuracy with a bipod is to not place it on a hard surface; keep the legs set as low to the ground as possible to minimize their flex while the bullet is still in the barrel; lean slightly into the rifle to "pre-stress" the bipod legs and firm up their setting; and use a consistent grip on the rifle."

      That said, comfort, safety and obtaining and maintaining a natural point of aim must factor in. Minimizing body tension is critical to precise accuracy.

      A long range shooting book (by Mr. Frank Galli) i recently read discussed positioning in a straight line behind the bipod by laying prone with legs spread wide and flat on the ground. Lift up the butt and scoot forward just a bit dropping rifle back down into your shoulder.

      Heavier, more barreled chest shooters will, by necessity, often need a higher bipod setting as compared to thinner chested shooters.

      A good friend, a very proficient shooter with an old neck injury employs a folded up towel to help support /prop up his chest....be creative, use supports as needed. I for example use a thin bag to cushion my strong side elbow and find it helps.
      Last edited by mtenenhaus; 10-19-2020, 2:51 AM.

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      • #4
        RideWest
        Member
        • May 2018
        • 155

        Butt stock height

        You mentioned that raising the rifle affects the position of your support hand / elbow. If you need to raise the butt stock, you should use the right size rear bag. The position of your support arm shouldn't change, there is no reason to raise your support hand on the rear bag. Keep the bottom edge of your support hand near the base of the bag.
        Last edited by RideWest; 10-19-2020, 7:48 AM.

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        • #5
          beanz2
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Nov 2008
          • 12032

          Thanks for the suggestions, gentlemen. Very useful input.

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          • #6
            FeuerFrei
            Calguns Addict
            • Aug 2008
            • 7455

            When shooting prone I have adjusted to a 45 deg body angle relative to the direction the rifle is pointed. Much more comfortable on the neck/legs/arms. Works with/with out bi-pd.
            Hi or lo leg setting is always shooter's choice. Sometimes a back pack is better.

            I don't mind getting old. it's the side effects that bother me.

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            • #7
              ar15barrels
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              • Jan 2006
              • 57128

              Originally posted by beanz2
              What is the best height to set my bipod if I am shooting prone on a flat terrain with no land feature obstruction? My bipod only goes from 5" to 9".

              I find the higher it is, the more I rest on my supporting elbow. I keep my left hand under the stock (squeezing a sandbag), but the easier it is on my neck for longer shooting sessions. At the lowest position, I can keep my forearm almost flat on the ground and it feels much steadier, but it's hard on my neck.

              Maybe it's my imagination, but at lower bipod heights, the rifle also seems to recoil less.

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              The closer you are to the ground, the more solid your position is.
              If you can get a comfortable position at the lowest setting, that will be the most stable.
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              • #8
                ar15barrels
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2006
                • 57128

                Originally posted by FeuerFrei
                When shooting prone I have adjusted to a 45 deg body angle relative to the direction the rifle is pointed.
                That position causes the rifle to jump to the side because you are not straight behind it.
                When you are straight behind a rifle, the rifle jumps up and lands in about the same place it was when you fired.
                This allows you to self-spot your impacts.
                When the rifle does NOT land or stay on target, you will not be able to spot your impacts in realtime.

                HOW a rifle jumps and which way it lands off-target is actually how you can tell that you are NOT properly straight behind the rifle.
                Randall Rausch

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                Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
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                • #9
                  Dirtlaw
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Apr 2018
                  • 3480

                  Originally posted by lastinline
                  Do whatever is more comfortable.
                  Some stretching exercises prior to shooting may also help. Likely the best position is somewhere in the middle. If you are behind the glass for long periods, varying your position periodically will reduce muscle aches later.

                  Lots of great advice here. I sure wish I had done more stretching when I was young. Got to protect those joints.

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                  • #10
                    smoothy8500
                    Veteran Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 3846

                    A pretty good video from Frank Galli discussing prone, but even he says it is possible to get "too low" where it impedes your ability.

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                    • #11
                      seansmd
                      Junior Member
                      • Aug 2018
                      • 61

                      Low, bladed(45) and head laid over is not the best practices being taught these days.

                      Highly recommend this one for setup, height, cheek weld,etc.


                      The science of the setup:


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                      • #12
                        newbutold
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2017
                        • 1952

                        I prefer to sit using the bi-pod.
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                        • #13
                          FeuerFrei
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 7455

                          When I shoot prone from a bi-pod rest it's not on my flat range at home. It is usually while out hunting on uneven ground. Packing a bag of sand around is not my idea of comfort either.

                          My shooting angle dictates my body position. There is best practice vs real world expedient practice. I have no interest in shooting paper outside of sighting in.

                          If you can't get comfortable behind the rifle you're not going to shoot your best.
                          That's my default these days. A 45 may not be current dogma, but it enables me to get comfortable and maintain focus in my world.

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                          • #14
                            SouthCityShooter
                            Banned
                            • Oct 2020
                            • 64

                            I've not seen the videos. What Randall & Smoothy8500 said. +1!

                            This is one of those seemingly simple things, that is really(!) important to get right. It makes a big difference. You can explain this all d*** day, but you won't know it until you get, you, your body alignment/NPOA, and your rifle and bipod set correctly and feel and see it.

                            Once you do, and you recognize what this is supposed to feel like, with your weapon(!) it won't take you long to figure out how to do it consistently. It's the gaining the awareness and thereafter being cognizant of how that is process supposed to happen. That's the hard part.

                            Some people also have physical limitations that make that hard to achieve.

                            Someone suggested stretching above. A good suggestion from someone who I'd bet is at least in their mid-forties.
                            Last edited by SouthCityShooter; 11-05-2020, 10:11 AM.

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                            • #15
                              DueceMcGurk
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2016
                              • 884

                              Sean,
                              Good videos. Didn't know Tiger Woods was a rifle shooter. lol

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