Quick detachable stock

[whosbeenfartin]

I am looking to break a rifle down to be able to fit it more easily in a motorcycle luggage.

Would a quick detachable stock Be legal on a lever gun in California?

The gun in question is a marlin 1895 with a 16.5” barrel so the stock is actually a large part of the rifles length overall. I think the possible
Issue is that since it could technical be fired with the stock detached it might be considered an SBR. I mean technically the original stock can
Be unscrewed and removed but what I had in mind is a socket with an interrupted thread and a pin that can go in right behind the tang. This would get the 2 part overall length down small enough for me to fit it in my motorcycle side case.

[ojisan]

Is it still 26" or more with the butt off?
If so you are good to go.

[smittty]

Winchester makes a few takedown 92’s and 94’s. I always wanted one!

My grip with them is that they offer 20” and 16” but 16” barrel half is longer than the buttstock half when taken down. Then the 20” is longer so I wish they had a 18” so both half’s are closer to the same length.

Why make a takedown to a length that isn’t symmetrical? One half longer than the other is stupid to me!

[RandyD]

Since the gun can be fired without a stock, you are treading into making your rifle a SBR. An officer may or may not charge you. In my opinion, he can, so you should consider something additional. Watch this video around the 2:30 mark, and the gunsmith removes one screw and then takes the lever out of the rifle. That would make the rifle in operable and that solves your problem.

[Imageview]

Ranger point precision makes a qd lever screw

[CamW]

Get one of these:

https://taylorsfirearms.com/long-guns/cartridge-rifles/1892-alaskan.html

http://www.thearmsroom.com/id3.html

[sigstroker]

Since the gun can be fired without a stock, you are treading into making your rifle a SBR. An officer may or may not charge you. In my opinion, he can, so you should consider something additional. Watch this video around the 2:30 mark, and the gunsmith removes one screw and then takes the lever out of the rifle. That would make the rifle in operable and that solves your problem.

The "B" in SBR stands for barrel. They aren't changing the barrel, just the stock.

[k1dude]

Chiappa, Wild West Guns, and Taylor's make takedown lever action rifles. All CA legal AFAIK.

[Quiet]

The "B" in SBR stands for barrel. They aren't changing the barrel, just the stock.

Under CA SBR laws, a rifle with an overall length of less than 26" is a SBR. [PC 17170(b)]

There are several CA case laws upholding this.
~First case [People v Stinson (1970)] involved a rifle with a 21.25" barrel and a cut down shoulder stock giving it an overall length of 25.5".
~Second case [People v Rooney (1993)] involved a rifle with a 16" barrel with a detachable stock that was unattached from the rifle, which gave it an overall length of 25.75". The rifle could fire without the stock attached.

[sigstroker]

That's crazy talk.

They should call it something else.

[ShaunBrady]

It's not just a California thing. The Feds call rifles shorter than 26" "Weapon made from rifle" and they require a tax stamp.

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/firearms-guide-identification-firearms-section-5

[RandyD]

The "B" in SBR stands for barrel. They aren't changing the barrel, just the stock.

You are missing the point of my post. If you take the lever out the rifle is no longer able to be fired, at that point the length of the rifle is not relevant to SBR statutes.