Rossi 92 .357 with a 24" octagon barrel?

[Revhendo]

OK, I have to admit that I've been looking for a R92 in .357 for a while now.
(My unicorn being a rebarreled Pre-64). I ran across this on Bud's guns.

https://www.budsgunshop.com/product_info.php/products_id/415010626/rossi+-+r92%2c357mag%2c24%22octagon+barrel%2cpolished+blue%2cwo+od+stock%2cbuckhorn+sights%2c12-rd

I didn't think Rossi was going to do octagon barrels anymore. I'm not sure about the 24", but then again....

I may have to pass, I'm facing a furlough or paycut and I did promise the bride a CZ compact.

[Spyder]

Whoa that's cool. They let you pick your serial number from inventory!

That's the one I would want if I was shopping for one right now.

[Wordupmybrotha]

Not a fan of octagonal barrels. Too heavy

[W.R.Buchanan]

That gun is a 24" barreled "Rifle" As opposed to a 20" barreled "Short Rifle" or a Carbine with a barrel band. Note; Carbines have Barrel Bands, Rifles and Short Rifles have fore end caps and no barrel band.

You would see very strong performance with Hot Factory .357 Magnum rounds and whatever they did in a revolver you could add 200-300 fps from the 24" barrel.

With select handloads you could easily get to 1700-1800 fps.

Randy

[golfish]

I have both of them in .357, the 24" rifle in SS and the short rifle in Case hardened. I too didn't think they were going to make them again. The 20" has always been the hardest one to get. They are both fun range guns, I don't think I would want to carry while hunting

[Spyder]

I've got a 20" stainless that is great fun to shoot. I'd love a 24" octagon case hardened to go with it! ...but alas, the safe is full for now.

[Epaphroditus]

I have an R92 20" octagonal barrel in 45LC - it's noticeably heavy.

[pennstater]

I have an R92 20" octagonal barrel in 45LC - it's noticeably heavy.

The octagon barreled rifles are a bit heavy. But, damn, they shoot! Have always had my eye on Mark's Rossi SS with that big barrel. It's a dandy!

MLC

[Revhendo]

If it was a 20 incher, I would've hit the buy button. I'd be ducking the missus for the next year, but still.....

[RNE228]

I'd be interested to know what the velocity gains are as you go to longer barrels in a 357mag. Is there a real advantage velocity wise to a 24" barrel that offsets the extra weight? What is the point of diminishing returns?

A 24" barrel would help accuracy by a longer sight radius, especially with a receiver or tang mount sight. But again, does that offset the extra weight?

[pennstater]

RNE228, agree with those longer octagon barrels being heavier. I have a Henry BB brass with the 20" octagon barrel, and with 9-10 rounds in and my base/rings and scope, it's 10 lb easy!I wouldn't be toting that one in the field. Strictly a range or desert gun. I believe I read that a .357 stops gaining any velocity after 16" of burn in a rifle barrel. Might be wrong, but, I think I've read that somewhere.

MLC

[Spyder]

It won't be real soon, but I'll try and remember to take my 16" and 20" 357, and my 20" and 24" 45 Colt out and chrono the same loads in them and report back.

The 20" octagon 45 Colt pushes 250s to and past handgun Casull levels without pressure signs and I had planned on using it for my deer hunt in March. Have not yet chrono'd the same loud out of the 24"

[200Apples]

The 20" octagon 45 Colt pushes 250s to...

Would you be so kind as to share bullet type? Powder? Charge weight? but mainly Speed when you measure it? I don't load 45 Colt but I'm interested in your ballistics data to compare to some mid-level .44 Magnum loads I use and to some heavy .44 Special loads I like to shoot. Thanks Spyder!

[BOBGBA]

It won't be real soon, but I'll try and remember to take my 16" and 20" 357, and my 20" and 24" 45 Colt out and chrono the same loads in them and report back.

The 20" octagon 45 Colt pushes 250s to and past handgun Casull levels without pressure signs and I had planned on using it for my deer hunt in March. Have not yet chrono'd the same loud out of the 24"

Spyder, that will be interesting to see.
Somebody, previously posted that .357 velocity seems to peak at 16".

http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/357mag.html

Bob

[200Apples]

I believe I read that a .357 stops gaining any velocity after 16" of burn in a rifle barrel. Might be wrong, but, I think I've read that somewhere.

That is correct, Tom, and thanks! Bob! but according to BBTI and the specific over-the-counter .357 Magnum loads they tested.

I'm thinking that if different powder burn rates were tested one might see a peak velocity from a longer barrel, but I wouldn't know where to begin off the top of my head. There's so much unorganized load data swirling through my head these days it's amazing. Of course, I'm only loading from published data, but that doesn't stop me from researching what other shooters like to use.