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  • Horsewright
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2019
    • 662

    Lever Guys! Circle the Wagons!

    No really. Circle the wagons and hunker down.

    Here's the scenario. You've just received word of an horrific murder and dismemberment in the hood. The crime was interrupted by a family member returning home and the bad guy is on the lam, on foot. You know he is armed with a firearm and a large knife. The hood is lots of open rolling oak hillsides with the occasional house or two or three here and there on 2.5 acre lots. Ya get a text from a deputy friend that says don't open the door if there's a knock. Being an advocate of Clint Smith's adage that the purpose of a handgun is to enable you to fight your way back to the long gun that you never should have left behind in the first place, you find yourself in front of the safe.

    The EMP has edc duty that day but there is something definitely reassuring about the heft of the big Springfield slabsides as you put it down on the workbench to change holsters.



    Spare mag in the back pocket ok, now the long gun. There's that black thing in the back but thats not what ya grab. All the levers are in the front. I took the Marlin Guide Gun in.45-70 and the Marlin 94 in.45 Colt for the wife (she had her Sig 365 on already). Loaded them up and went back inside from the attached shop. Just finished an interior perimeter check of the house, all is secure and ...........there's a knock at the door.......!



    We have a lateral window and so can see who is at the front door with out being seen. It was big Tyler from across the way with his Glock 19 on and a Win 94 (.30-30) in hand. He had our back while we did our chores and fed the horses in the waning light and then we had his while he did the same. Exterior perimeter check to see that no one had broken in while we were out and then went inside the three of us and started dinner while waiting for his wife to come up the hill from Bakerspatch. Bad guy was later killed that night in a shootout with the constabulary.

    Whadya think? What lever would ya grab and why?


    Last edited by Horsewright; 01-30-2020, 8:00 AM.
  • #2
    nedro
    Veteran Member
    • Nov 2014
    • 4130

    My 94 because it's the only lever I have. But all of my long guns are readily available and ready for loaded mags. Lever would not be my go to. WAY too hard and too much time to reload.

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    • #3
      r8dr rider
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2009
      • 1983

      My 357 Henry and GP100.

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      • #4
        echo1
        Veteran Member
        • Apr 2010
        • 3934

        When I'm on the road for any extended period, I take along My Rossi .357 92 and my Rossi 4". At home, there's not much chance of that situation happening in our little ag community. PAX
        You need a crew

        "A free people should be armed and disciplined" (George Washington),

        Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.~John Adams 1798

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        • #5
          200Apples
          -DVC- Mojave Lever Crew
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Dec 2011
          • 7217

          I keep a neat little 3" .45 auto Kimber 1911 and a 16" .357 Rossi 92 in the house with me when I'm home, but I live in suburbia.

          That said, in your scenario I'd grab my 16" .44 Magnum Marlin 1894 SBL for 8 rounds of 1500 fps 270 grain flat points, and one of my Government 1911s.

          If'n it were Grizz knockin' down the door to get in (in some other location), I'd want my .45-70 with one in the chamber and four in the tube. It's lighter and faster than an 870 (of which I have a couple). 400 grain solids (400 semi-jacketed flat points) beats the softer, thimble-shaped Forster 12 ga slugs for penetration.
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          "Get a proper holster, and go hot. The End." - SplitHoof

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          • #6
            RNE228
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2013
            • 2458

            Browning BLR, later Savage 99, Winchester 88, and some of the new Henry Long Ranger use a box magazine. Much quicker than a tubular mag. Not available in pistol cartridges though.

            Originally posted by nedro
            Lever would not be my go to. WAY too hard and too much time to reload.

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            • #7
              200Apples
              -DVC- Mojave Lever Crew
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Dec 2011
              • 7217

              Guess I'll have to make my first video some time on how easy and quick loading a tube mag lever gun can be.

              Only takes a little practice.




              And I just read the *whole* story! that Horsewright posted... cheeeze louieeeeze. That's a very plausible sittyashin, and I'm glad to hear of neighbors like Tyler, there.

              I wanted to add I like the Yaqui slide holster you made! I have one I bought from Alphonso's Leather in Burbank. I'd have more of his leather but he holsters only authentic Colts and not Rugers.

              I daily wear a neat little patch of leather Bianchi calls a Fold-Away; it's like the Yaqui slide, but not as beefy. I gotta post some pics later.

              Good thread! I'll never tire of "What would you use?" threads, especially Bear threads! Hahaha!


              Last edited by 200Apples; 01-30-2020, 9:59 AM.
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              "Get a proper holster, and go hot. The End." - SplitHoof

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              • #8
                Horsewright
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2019
                • 662

                Originally posted by echo1
                When I'm on the road for any extended period, I take along My Rossi .357 92 and my Rossi 4". At home, there's not much chance of that situation happening in our little ag community. PAX
                One would think the same thing here. However it did happen. Gathering last Friday. This part of the ranch is within city limits! The house is about a mile a way and is outside city limits.



                Ya can see the victim's house from ours.

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                • #9
                  splithoof
                  Calguns Addict
                  • May 2015
                  • 6099

                  I'm going to lean one of my lever guns against the large visible weather station adjacent to the chicken pen that's out in the open, as bait. When a perp has to get out in the open to grab it, he/she will face a barrage from multiple covered secure positions. Hope it will be in the dead of night.

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                  • #10
                    200Apples
                    -DVC- Mojave Lever Crew
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 7217

                    ^ ^ ^ And for my esteemed! colleague, the inimitable splithoof, that would be like shooting fish in a barrel.

                    Thank God.



                    there's not much chance of that situation happening in our little ag community.
                    I'm glad you feel that way, but do you wear a seatbelt? Keep a fire extinguisher? Etc?



                    One would think the same thing here. However it did happen.
                    My point exactly. I thought so, too, but posted instead, "plausible".

                    Good grief. This is why! we train. Why! (one of the reasons, anyway) we keep and bear arms.

                    The only thing that will stop a bad guy with a gun (and a machete) is a good guy with a gun. Or/and a good Lady with a gun.

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                    "Get a proper holster, and go hot. The End." - SplitHoof

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                    • #11
                      splithoof
                      Calguns Addict
                      • May 2015
                      • 6099

                      Horse, do you remember only a couple years back of the "wild man" who was rummaging through rural cabins and houses in the Caliente, Keen, and Tehatchapi area?.....I spent a few extra nights down in the barn during that time.

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                      • #12
                        nedro
                        Veteran Member
                        • Nov 2014
                        • 4130

                        Originally posted by 200Apples
                        Guess I'll have to make my first video some time on how easy and quick loading a tube mag lever gun can be.

                        Only takes a little practice.
                        I'd love to see it. But quicker than mags? NO

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                        • #13
                          200Apples
                          -DVC- Mojave Lever Crew
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 7217

                          But quicker than mags? NO
                          Of course swapping *pre-loaded* magazines would be quicker... but your point is mo0t.

                          This is a lever gun thread, after all.


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                          "Get a proper holster, and go hot. The End." - SplitHoof

                          NRA Lifetime | Avatar courtesy Elon Musk's Twitter User SomthingWicked

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                          • #14
                            aklon
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 3197

                            Model 92 in .44 magnum with full house loads, not the cowboy action stuff I usually shoot.

                            The Henry (original) is too long and awkward, the Browning Model 1886 too heavy, but the Model 92 is light and nimble.
                            Freedom is the dream you dream while putting thought in chains.

                            - Giacomo Leopardi

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                            • #15
                              RNE228
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2013
                              • 2458

                              Moot depends on the cartridge. For rifle cartridge there are levers with detachable mags

                              As mentioned previously, lever actions have been available with detachable magazines.

                              Later Savage 99 were detachable mag
                              Browning BLR is detachable mag
                              Winchester 88 was detachable mag
                              New Henry Long Ranger are detachable mag

                              I would bet a nickel the original Savage internal rotary mag is much faster to load than a tube too. It even has a round counter on the side of the receiver

                              I would agree though, that the loading gate/tube mag is not that hard to load in a hurry if you are accustomed to it.

                              Originally posted by 200Apples
                              Of course swapping *pre-loaded* magazines would be quicker... but your point is mo0t.

                              This is a lever gun thread, after all.


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