Thinking of getting a 338 Lapua

[ar15barrels]

Besides 338, is there a lighter round for economical 1 mile shooting?

Define economical.
"Economical 1 mile shooting" is an oxymoron.

[sigstroker]

Besides 338, is there a lighter round for economical 1 mile shooting?

There are 30 caliber and 7mm selections that will get you there.

Magnums, ultra magnums, saum's, noslers, wsm....just to name a few...

Not sure if economical fits any of these I listed...barrel life and still 70+ grains of slow powder for most. Maybe 280 AI......

West Desert Shooter on youtube did a project on a 7mm SAUM built on a Tikka and shot it over 2000 yards. 180 grain bullets at nearly 3000 fps, yeoww. His build was very economical, relatively speaking, until he decided to get a chassis. Before that he just used a Boyd's stock.

[Jesse 2]

There are 30 caliber and 7mm selections that will get you there.

Magnums, ultra magnums, saum's, noslers, wsm....just to name a few...

Not sure if economical fits any of these I listed...barrel life and still 70+ grains of slow powder for most. Maybe 280 AI......

Is 300 Norma also a good caliber? Like OP, moving from 6.5CM to 338 seems like a huge jump. Barrel life and reload cost is important, as I shoot ~300 to just develop a load. Recoil management is also a big factor. 338 is not a problem, if it is an ultimate solution. Just wonder if there is anything as pleasant as 6.5CM to get me to 1 mile.

[hermosabeach]

If you could rewind the clock and get a .50 BMG, would you do it?

Yup


I am a fan at looking at the used market. Many big bore guns don’t get shot much.


Real big bore shooters will have a log book for every round fired.


Get Randall to quote you the cost for a quality rebarrel for the option you are looking to pick up.


When a rifle is 4-5k with rings and optics, it makes sense to look for a gently used safe queen- at least to me


Search on gun broker. Make used .338 look almost new.

Get a bore scope. You will appreciate it when cleaning a match gun

Also great for used gun inspection.

[hermosabeach]

Most of page one has zero bids

3 have 1 bid

https://www.gunbroker.com/All/search?Keywords=.338%20lapua&PageSize=24&Sort=13&View=1&Condition=4

[Jesse 2]

Is this a good deal?


Sako TRG- Ruger RPR- 700 5R

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3. Sako TRG 42 338 Lapua. Round count is under 400. Shoots well under 1/2'' groups. Shoots 1/4'' if you do your part with hand loads. Has a KRG Spigot Mount and Sako Muzzle brake.
Bipod and scope not included.
$2,750 $2650

[devster55]

Is 300 Norma also a good caliber? Like OP, moving from 6.5CM to 338 seems like a huge jump. Barrel life and reload cost is important, as I shoot ~300 to just develop a load. Recoil management is also a big factor. 338 is not a problem, if it is an ultimate solution. Just wonder if there is anything as pleasant as 6.5CM to get me to 1 mile.

[MongooseV8]

7mm Practical
7mm STW
Would be my choice other than a 338.

[ar15barrels]

Just wonder if there is anything as pleasant as 6.5CM to get me to 1 mile.

There is not anything for the recoil averse that's GOOD at 1 mile.

300 Norma with Berger 230's is close to a 338 with 300's.

 Tabular trajectory data at Std.ICAO Atmosphere
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 Gun / Ammunition : .338 Lapua Mag.
 Bullet Type      : .338, 300, Berger Hybr OTMTacG7 #33109
 Bullet Weight    : 300 grains or 19.44 Grams
 Useable Case Capaci: 92.274 grain H2O = 5.991 cm³
 Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.800 inch = 96.52 mm
 Barrel Length      : 32.0 inch = 812.8 mm
 Powder             : Alliant Reloder-33
 Charge Weight      : 95.3gr
 Muzzle Velocity  : 2817 fps
 Twist Length     : 11.0 in.  (RH)
 Gyro.  Stability : 1.37
 Crosswind Speed  : 10.0 Mph 
 Ballistic Coefficient(s) (G7) :
 C7_1=0.419@V>0 fps;
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Sight-in clicks, 1 click = 9.15 cm/100 yd. or 3.602 in/100 yd.
 Height of sight above bore axis = 5.0 cm or 1.969 inch
 Gun is zeroed-in at 100 yds,
 by sighting-in at level firing
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Range  Velo Time of  Energy   Path   Spin / Wind-  Total  Sight correction  Target
        city  flight            to     dage, Wind    drop   for setting new   lead
                                LOS    of 10.0 Mph             zero range     33 fps
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
·Yards   fps     s    ft.lbs.   in.    in.     MOA     in.   Clicks     MOA     yds ·
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
| 1750  1221  2.8317    994 -1129.6 -148.8   -8.12  1201.8    +17.9   +61.65   30.97
| 1800  1186  2.9567    937 -1226.1 -159.7   -8.47  1300.4    +18.9   +65.06   32.34
| 1850  1150  3.0817    880 -1325.2 -170.5   -8.80  1401.6    +19.9   +68.41   33.70
| 1900  1118  3.2163    833 -1437.6 -182.7   -9.18  1516.1    +21.0   +72.26   35.17
| 1950  1086  3.3504    786 -1553.1 -194.8   -9.54  1633.7    +22.1   +76.06   36.64
| 2000  1071  3.4914    764 -1685.1 -208.0   -9.93  1767.9    +23.4   +80.46   38.18
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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 Gun / Ammunition : .300 Norma Mag
 Bullet Type      : .308, 230, Berger Hybr OTM G7 #30112
 Useable Case Capaci: 95.494 grain H2O = 6.200 cm³
 Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.600 inch = 91.44 mm
 Barrel Length      : 32.0 inch = 812.8 mm
 Powder             : Alliant Reloder-33
 Charge             : 95.5gr
 Bullet Weight    : 230 grains or 14.90 Grams
 Muzzle Velocity  : 3114 fps
 Twist Length     : 11.0 in.  (RH)
 Gyro.  Stability : 1.31
 Crosswind Speed  : 10.0 Mph 
 Ballistic Coefficient(s) (G7) :
 C7_1=0.368@V>0 fps;
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Sight-in clicks, 1 click = 9.15 cm/100 yd. or 3.602 in/100 yd.
 Height of sight above bore axis = 5.0 cm or 1.969 inch
 Gun is zeroed-in at 100 yds,
 by sighting-in at level firing
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Range  Velo Time of  Energy   Path   Spin / Wind-  Total  Sight correction  Target
        city  flight            to     dage, Wind    drop   for setting new   lead
                                LOS    of 10.0 Mph             zero range     33 fps
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
·Yards   fps     s    ft.lbs.   in.    in.     MOA     in.   Clicks     MOA     yds ·
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

| 1750  1234  2.6793    777  -987.1 -155.7   -8.50  1051.7    +15.7   +53.87   29.30
| 1800  1194  2.8043    728 -1076.4 -167.6   -8.89  1143.0    +16.6   +57.12   30.67
| 1850  1153  2.9293    678 -1168.2 -179.4   -9.26  1236.7    +17.5   +60.31   32.04
| 1900  1116  3.0631    636 -1271.7 -192.6   -9.68  1342.1    +18.6   +63.92   33.50
| 1950  1083  3.1985    599 -1381.0 -205.9  -10.08  1453.3    +19.7   +67.63   34.98
| 2000  1065  3.3394    580 -1504.0 -220.1  -10.51  1578.2    +20.9   +71.82   36.52
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[kevins750]

I have a savage 338lm, it shoots well(only been to 1200yds) and I like it.

My choice of 338lm was some ignorance and some lust. I considered 300 ultra, 7 ultra, and 300 Norma mag. I (lust) didn't want to wait for a gun longer than DROS time(ignorance).
So I had a choice between 338lm or 300 ultra in stock near me. Shooting buddy has 2 300 ultras.

I wanted a gun in a chassis so I chose the savage 338lm. I would do it again.

Some of the factors (at the time of purchase) was brass availability, and known loads all over the net(300gr bullet, lapua brass, H1000)ALSO I heard barrel life on the LM is better than the big 300's. Don't know if that's true or not.

My rifle is pretty heavy, buttstock changed to xlr extreme and recoil really isn't bad.

I have stated before, when I take it to coalinga everyone shoots it. I just dial it to 500yds and load a 250 lapua scenar round for them and they get hits with it all day. 4 moa target...


With all that said..I have 7mm mags also.....but I still think about 7 stw or 7 saum.

[sigstroker]

There is not anything for the recoil averse that's GOOD at 1 mile.

300 Norma with Berger 230's is close to a 338 with 300's.

 Tabular trajectory data at Std.ICAO Atmosphere
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Gun / Ammunition : .338 Lapua Mag.
 Bullet Type      : .338, 300, Berger Hybr OTMTacG7 #33109
 Bullet Weight    : 300 grains or 19.44 Grams
 Useable Case Capaci: 92.274 grain H2O = 5.991 cm³
 Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.800 inch = 96.52 mm
 Barrel Length      : 32.0 inch = 812.8 mm
 Powder             : Alliant Reloder-33
 Charge Weight      : 95.3gr
 Muzzle Velocity  : 2817 fps
 Twist Length     : 11.0 in.  (RH)
 Gyro.  Stability : 1.37
 Crosswind Speed  : 10.0 Mph 
 Ballistic Coefficient(s) (G7) :
 C7_1=0.419@V>0 fps;
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Sight-in clicks, 1 click = 9.15 cm/100 yd. or 3.602 in/100 yd.
 Height of sight above bore axis = 5.0 cm or 1.969 inch
 Gun is zeroed-in at 100 yds,
 by sighting-in at level firing
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Range  Velo Time of  Energy   Path   Spin / Wind-  Total  Sight correction  Target
        city  flight            to     dage, Wind    drop   for setting new   lead
                                LOS    of 10.0 Mph             zero range     33 fps
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
·Yards   fps     s    ft.lbs.   in.    in.     MOA     in.   Clicks     MOA     yds ·
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
| 1750  1221  2.8317    994 -1129.6 -148.8   -8.12  1201.8    +17.9   +61.65   30.97
| 1800  1186  2.9567    937 -1226.1 -159.7   -8.47  1300.4    +18.9   +65.06   32.34
| 1850  1150  3.0817    880 -1325.2 -170.5   -8.80  1401.6    +19.9   +68.41   33.70
| 1900  1118  3.2163    833 -1437.6 -182.7   -9.18  1516.1    +21.0   +72.26   35.17
| 1950  1086  3.3504    786 -1553.1 -194.8   -9.54  1633.7    +22.1   +76.06   36.64
| 2000  1071  3.4914    764 -1685.1 -208.0   -9.93  1767.9    +23.4   +80.46   38.18
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Gun / Ammunition : .300 Norma Mag
 Bullet Type      : .308, 230, Berger Hybr OTM G7 #30112
 Useable Case Capaci: 95.494 grain H2O = 6.200 cm³
 Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.600 inch = 91.44 mm
 Barrel Length      : 32.0 inch = 812.8 mm
 Powder             : Alliant Reloder-33
 Charge             : 95.5gr
 Bullet Weight    : 230 grains or 14.90 Grams
 Muzzle Velocity  : 3114 fps
 Twist Length     : 11.0 in.  (RH)
 Gyro.  Stability : 1.31
 Crosswind Speed  : 10.0 Mph 
 Ballistic Coefficient(s) (G7) :
 C7_1=0.368@V>0 fps;
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Sight-in clicks, 1 click = 9.15 cm/100 yd. or 3.602 in/100 yd.
 Height of sight above bore axis = 5.0 cm or 1.969 inch
 Gun is zeroed-in at 100 yds,
 by sighting-in at level firing
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Range  Velo Time of  Energy   Path   Spin / Wind-  Total  Sight correction  Target
        city  flight            to     dage, Wind    drop   for setting new   lead
                                LOS    of 10.0 Mph             zero range     33 fps
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
·Yards   fps     s    ft.lbs.   in.    in.     MOA     in.   Clicks     MOA     yds ·
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

| 1750  1234  2.6793    777  -987.1 -155.7   -8.50  1051.7    +15.7   +53.87   29.30
| 1800  1194  2.8043    728 -1076.4 -167.6   -8.89  1143.0    +16.6   +57.12   30.67
| 1850  1153  2.9293    678 -1168.2 -179.4   -9.26  1236.7    +17.5   +60.31   32.04
| 1900  1116  3.0631    636 -1271.7 -192.6   -9.68  1342.1    +18.6   +63.92   33.50
| 1950  1083  3.1985    599 -1381.0 -205.9  -10.08  1453.3    +19.7   +67.63   34.98
| 2000  1065  3.3394    580 -1504.0 -220.1  -10.51  1578.2    +20.9   +71.82   36.52
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

.300 PRC is also very close but using almost 20 grains less powder.

wrt getting a fifty, remember that many ranges don't allow them regardless of yardage.

[ar15barrels]

.300 PRC is also very close but using almost 20 grains less powder.

Most magnums are very close, but not as good.
What's your point?

[devster55]

At this point I feel like I don’t want to settle. I’m going to stop in at sportsman’s and pick one up. Thanks for the advise.

[Socalmp5]

[devster55]

Going to put a 20moa base with a Burris XTR2 5X25 scope. I have one on my 6.5 and love it. May go with a gen 2 razor 4.5-27.