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  • tbc
    Calguns Addict
    • Jun 2011
    • 5955

    Long range rifle precision vs bullseyes handgun shooting...

    Which one is harder to master?

    Let say,

    Long range rifle precision up to 1000 yards.

    Vs

    Bullseye handgun up to 50 yards.


    Edit: Moderator, I meant to start this thread in a general gun discussion.
    Last edited by tbc; 09-30-2019, 2:11 PM.
  • #2
    mtenenhaus
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2007
    • 3416

    wow..so tough to answer...so many variables.

    For myself, from specifically a physical perspective it's easier on my body to lie still prone, cushion and rest my arms as one would on a rifle as opposed to having to stand upright and steady as one would with pistol.

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    • #3
      smoothy8500
      Veteran Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 3846

      I am assuming you are talking about NRA "Long-range" F-class and "Bullseye pistol"? They are equally difficult to "master", but for differing reasons. My experience in Bullseye, XTC service rifle, and F-class all depend on the fundamentals of sight alignment, breathing, and trigger control. I found the rise in ability quickest with F-class, but reading the wind is much more difficult since the margin of error is way smaller on the target. Bullseye pistol was a much slower rise with ability. Slow-fire pistol one-handed is incredibly difficult. More so than off-hand slow fire in service rifle.

      Both pistol and service rifle are unsupported, so you have a lot of wobbles that takes place until you learn muscle control. There is also the timing/trigger control aspect-pulling the trigger as your brain recognizes the sight moves into the X-ring.
      Last edited by smoothy8500; 09-30-2019, 2:48 PM.

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      • #4
        6079Winston
        Member
        • Jun 2007
        • 368

        I would argue that Bullseye Pistol is harder since a perfect score has never been recorded in a sanctioned 2700 match, not that Long Range, Fullbore and Palma are in any way easy.

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        • #5
          sigstroker
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jan 2009
          • 19614

          Both equally boring and therefore, impossible, for me.

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          • #6
            hunterb
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Jun 2011
            • 3795

            When you get old I feel bullseye pistol is harder as it gets harder to focus on that front sight due to Presbyopia.

            But shooting shotgun clays is just so much more fun!
            Originally posted by johnthomas
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            • #7
              Fjold
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Oct 2005
              • 22908

              I was a Bullseye shooter for about 5 years and have shot long range rifle for over 30 years.

              Without question, Bullseye is tougher. It's the same trigger technique, breathing, etc. but doing it standing, unsupported and with one hand is a lot tougher.
              Frank

              One rifle, one planet, Holland's 375




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              • #8
                rm1911
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                • Jan 2013
                • 4073

                NRA Life Member since 1990

                They're not liberals, they're leftists. Please don't use the former for the latter. Liberals are Locke, Jefferson, Burke, Hayek. Leftists are progressives, Prussian state-socialists, fascists. Liberals stand against the state and unequivocally support liberty. Leftists support state tyranny.

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                • #9
                  sigstroker
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                  • Jan 2009
                  • 19614

                  You mean most expensive scope...

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                  • #10
                    theLBC
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Oct 2017
                    • 6743

                    depends on conditions.

                    if you have the right equipment, under the right conditions, almost anyone can hit a target at 1000yds. (physically pulling the trigger of the rifle).
                    but reading wind, calculating dope and hitting tiny targets takes time and practice.



                    handguns would be harder imho.
                    Last edited by theLBC; 09-30-2019, 7:22 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Fjold
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 22908

                      Originally posted by rm1911
                      It’s a tough question. But long range precision is simply about who has the most expensive rifle, so ...


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                      The best rifle doesn't always win, neither does the best scope or even the best shooter.

                      For a lot of matches it's the guy who reads the wind the best that wins.

                      As far as the most expensive rifle goes, ask Randy Wise

                      Randy Wise Stuns With 2,158-Yard Shot, Sets New ELR World Record
                      by SSUSA Staff - Monday, August 26, 2019


                      Randy Wise set a new ELR Central World Record at a mind-blowing distance of 2,158-yards during the 2019 NRA Extreme Long-Range Nationals, held at Camp Atterbury, IN, on Friday, August 23. From a cold bore, he went three for three shooting at a 36-inch square white steel plate.

                      Randy Wise connected at 2,158 yards with a Savage .338 Lapua rifle, setting a new ELR Central World Record in the process at the 2019 NRA Extreme Long-Range Nationals.

                      Wise was shooting a Savage Arms rifle, chambered in .338 Lapua with the stock 26-inch, 1:9-inch barrel, Accurate Rifle Systems chassis, Rempel bipod and Rifle Basics trigger. The scope was a Vortex Golden Eagle. And for his load, Wise used Lapua brass with Berger 300-grain hybrid bullets, Federal 215M primers and 90.5 grains of Retumbo powder. Ballistic solving was provided by Applied Ballistics.
                      Last edited by Fjold; 09-30-2019, 8:04 PM.
                      Frank

                      One rifle, one planet, Holland's 375




                      Life Member NRA, CRPA and SAF

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                      • #12
                        ar15barrels
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                        • Jan 2006
                        • 57103

                        Originally posted by rm1911
                        long range precision is simply about who has the most expensive rifle, so ...
                        LOL.
                        That's funny.
                        And proof that you know almost nothing about longrange precision shooting.
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                        • #13
                          smoothy8500
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                          • Sep 2009
                          • 3846

                          Originally posted by sigstroker
                          Both equally boring and therefore, impossible, for me.
                          Who would believe it takes a whole day to get through just 60 rounds for score...

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                          • #14
                            sigstroker
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                            • Jan 2009
                            • 19614

                            That much ammo could last about a stage and a half in an IPSC match. That could possibly take as much as two minutes!

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                            • #15
                              rm1911
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jan 2013
                              • 4073

                              Originally posted by ar15barrels
                              LOL.

                              That's funny.

                              And proof that you know almost nothing about longrange precision shooting.
                              NRA Life Member since 1990

                              They're not liberals, they're leftists. Please don't use the former for the latter. Liberals are Locke, Jefferson, Burke, Hayek. Leftists are progressives, Prussian state-socialists, fascists. Liberals stand against the state and unequivocally support liberty. Leftists support state tyranny.

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