deciding on a 30-30 deer rifle help

[Darto]

I have an old version 94 and a 336. At 2 minute mark Paul shows how the two guns throw out the empties. For me, the 94 throwing the empties back at me is annoying. This is also true of the angle eject 94 (which I used to have also). I do not know exactly how the 464 Mossy throws the shells.

[pennstater]

Darto, I have and shoot a Mod 94 AE. Mine does not "throw the empties back at me" what so ever. More like a 90 degree straight out to the right. It's why I settled on the AE as opposed to the top eject 94's.

[repomanNWP]

Now that you mention it, I'm not sure what people mean by bush/brush gun, I just meant I can take it anywhere, crawl under fences, scratch it up a bit and just not worry about it, its easy to carry slung on my back, stout, and shoots straight. And with that low profile skinner sight, it doesn't get hung up in tall brush or on branches, etc. That's what I meant.

[MissiontoMars]

I prefer the side loading gate so I'm not in love with the henry rifle.

The miroku winchesters are the best winchesters imo but $$$$. I think if I was willing to pay that much I'd probably get a take-down. My friend has a deluxe take-down in 45 LC and its very classy and fine shooting gun.

Henry has a new model .30-30 with both a receiver loading gate and the normal Henry tube loading gate.

https://www.henryusa.com/rifles/side-gate-lever-action/

[slamfire1]

Henry has a new model .30-30 with both a receiver loading gate and the normal Henry tube loading gate.

https://www.henryusa.com/rifles/side-gate-lever-action/

I recently examined a couple of Henry rifle's at the local store. Peering into the mechanism, I would say it is a duplicate of the Marlin 336. Rear locking bolt, lifter. Well built rifles.

I am going to say that the push safety on the Marlins is an improvement and I did not see one on the Henry. Lots of accidental discharges have occurred in Marlins when the spur slipped from under the thumb as the hammer was being lowered to half cock. It gets worse with gloves or cold fingers. The push safety also allows dry firing without breaking the firing pin. My pre push safety M1894, the firing pin broke into multiple pieces due to dry firing.

[TheGood]

Since the Marlin has an angled ejection port, a scope is do-able with it. There are two options that may be possible, for a scope/iron sights combo.

One is that you can use scope mounts that have 'see through' base (holes below the scope rigns) allowing you to see the stock iron sights if you wish.

The second would be to put a picatinny rail (or pads) on for the mount of the scope and use quick-release scope rings. If you do that, you would pack the scope in your backpack or coat and then mount it if you see a long range shot you think you could make.

[W.R.Buchanan]

I'd be concerned with using an old obsolete cartridge such as a 30-30.

The 30-30 cartridge may have taken more North American Game than all other center fire cartridges
combined in the last 100 years, but why chance it today with all the new & improved available calibers?

Really: or are you kidding? Please answer before my Rant is complete.

I guess he should shoot a 100 lb deer with a .300 Weatherby just in case it is tougher than the millions that were killed over the last 100 years with .30-30's?

This is exactly what I was talking about in the 6.5 Creedmore thread. The 6.5 c offers nothing ballistically in excess of a 6.5X55 Swede which is over 100 years old. The only thing that has changed is the bullets and powders they use, and those same powders work equally well in both rounds.

Now all of a sudden 100 lb deer are way tougher than they were 100 years ago. The number of Quote,,,"Obsolete Cartridges" there are now is really a testament to Marketing more than Performance.


New cartridges are like new jokes. I reiterate,,,, Nothing significant has happened since 1960 except better bullets and barrels.

Randy

[rm1911]

Really: or are you kidding? Please answer before my Rant is complete.



I guess he should shoot a 100 lb deer with a .300 Weatherby just in case it is tougher than the millions that were killed over the last 100 years with .30-30's?



This is exactly what I was talking about in the 6.5 Creedmore thread. The 6.5 c offers nothing ballistically in excess of a 6.5X55 Swede which is over 100 years old. The only thing that has changed is the bullets and powders they use, and those same powders work equally well in both rounds.



Now all of a sudden 100 lb deer are way tougher than they were 100 years ago. The number of Quote,,,"Obsolete Cartridges" there are now is really a testament to Marketing more than Performance.





New cartridges are like new jokes. I reiterate,,,, Nothing significant has happened since 1960 except better bullets and barrels.



Randy

[plumbum]

^^^ I C wat U did ther!

[ar15barrels]

I was watching some YouTube videos, so you should know I have this on very good authority.

LOL.

[TheGood]

WW-I, WW-II were won with the 30-06. Also used in Korea, and Vietnam.

[rm1911]

WW-I, WW-II were won with the 30-06

[TheGood]

WTF? I thought this was a friendly discussion about rifles, not an asshat club.

[rm1911]

WTF? I thought this was a friendly discussion about rifles, not an asshat club.