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  • Smesh
    Junior Member
    • Sep 2013
    • 98

    Calling all 243 Ackley improved Shooters...

    Who all shoots the 243 AI here? Please chime in.
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    jtv3062
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 2749

    I know we have a few
    Do not fear the enemy, for your enemy can only take your life. It is far better that you fear the media, for they will steal your Honour
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    • #3
      CamW
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2005
      • 1675

      I have a 6mm Rem Ackley Improved, a real barrel burner.

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      • #4
        MongooseV8
        Veteran Member
        • Apr 2010
        • 4426

        I have built many 243AI and love the lazer effect.

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        • #5
          Fjold
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Oct 2005
          • 22950

          The 243 lacks the body taper to make a big difference when improved. The AI may get you 8-10% more case capacity which is worth about a 1-2% velocity increase although it does help with the bass life by slowing down the case stretching.

          I shoot the 22.250 AI because the old 22.250 case has lots of room for improvement.

          Last edited by Fjold; 07-16-2019, 7:29 AM.
          Frank

          One rifle, one planet, Holland's 375




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          • #6
            LynnJr
            Calguns Addict
            • Jan 2013
            • 7958

            You need load data?
            A 107 Sierra and H1000 will get you some impressive results.
            Lynn Dragoman, Jr.
            Southwest Regional Director
            Unlimited Range Shooters Association (URSA)
            www.unlimitedrange.org
            Not a commercial business.
            URSA - Competition starts at 2000 yards!

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            • #7
              MongooseV8
              Veteran Member
              • Apr 2010
              • 4426

              2% of 4000fps is still 80 fps. I love the brass life and the speed. All Ackley chambers are great fun!

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              • #8
                sigstroker
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2009
                • 19671

                Vaughn Precision did a Savage project build on yootoob. This is one of the later videos in the series, fireforming brass, but before load development. Even so, 30 shots into .589 is impressive.

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                • #9
                  Smesh
                  Junior Member
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 98

                  Originally posted by LynnJr
                  You need load data?
                  A 107 Sierra and H1000 will get you some impressive results.
                  I was getting to the .2s with H1000 and moly-coated 107 Sierras. Now the rifle is a .243 Winchester. Long story, but two of my rifles were accidentally rechambered to 6mm Creedmoor (a 6br and a 243 AI). I was going to have them put back, but finally decided to just do chamber both in 243 Win. At least now I can buy good factory ammo almost anywhere and it's almost cheaper than reloading. If I can't find accurate factory ammo, I'll try to find a handload that works well in both rifles.

                  I already bought new Redding 243 Win dies, now I just have to order some new Lapua 243 Win brass. I discovered I cannot form the Lapua AI brass back to 243 Win. I can always have the chambers reamed back out to AI, so I'm just debating now if I will keep the Redding 243 AI Match die set and fireformed brass, or get rid of it.

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                  Last edited by Smesh; 07-18-2019, 1:55 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Fjold
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 22950

                    Smesh,

                    If you do rechamber to AI, can you post your load differences (velocity difference) with similar bullets?
                    Frank

                    One rifle, one planet, Holland's 375




                    Life Member NRA, CRPA and SAF

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                    • #11
                      LynnJr
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 7958




                      Load data.
                      Last edited by LynnJr; 11-24-2019, 7:11 PM.
                      Lynn Dragoman, Jr.
                      Southwest Regional Director
                      Unlimited Range Shooters Association (URSA)
                      www.unlimitedrange.org
                      Not a commercial business.
                      URSA - Competition starts at 2000 yards!

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                      • #12
                        Smesh
                        Junior Member
                        • Sep 2013
                        • 98

                        Originally posted by LynnJr
                        Load data.
                        I can't really read that even with my reading glasses. It looks to me though that I was using quite a bit more H1000 than in the load on that chart. I hunted in pretty cold weather up in Canada, so I could push things a bit more.

                        These are the two rifles in question that are now 243 Win. The little one was the Model 7 in 6BR. It's now FDE so it blends in a bit better with the sage. Of course now I might be headed north again.

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                        • #13
                          LynnJr
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 7958

                          That H1000 load is for the low node on a straight 243 not the Ackley Improved version.
                          Lynn Dragoman, Jr.
                          Southwest Regional Director
                          Unlimited Range Shooters Association (URSA)
                          www.unlimitedrange.org
                          Not a commercial business.
                          URSA - Competition starts at 2000 yards!

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                          • #14
                            Smesh
                            Junior Member
                            • Sep 2013
                            • 98

                            Oh got it. Thanks. I was going to try John Whidden's load of n160. I tried N160 in my Ackley and I couldn't find a good load. Maybe in the 243 it will be better. Just need to find a supplier in California. The shipping fee surcharges to bring it in are higher than the cost of a pound of powder. Anyone know who carries Vit powder in LA?

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