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  • North86
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2013
    • 1271

    Pistol Caliber Carbines - 9mm?

    I think I have a problem

    I have several pistol caliber carbines, in various calibers. What I don't have and have been unable to find for sale (at a reasonable price) is a 9mm bolt action rifle.

    Saw this: http://www.specialinterestarms.com/index.php?page=novem

    And there are some others.

    I can't help but think that a 9mm bolt carbine that takes glock mags would be pretty awesome.

    Had i known about the SIA conversion kits, i would have gotten one

    Any other recommendations?
    Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves. - William Pitt
  • #2
    golfish
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Mar 2013
    • 10123

    I've been thinking all weekend about buying dies for 9mm to load some HD rounds.
    Its suprising how well this cartridge does out of the longer barrel...suprising to me that is.
    Good luck with your search.

    It takes a lot of balls to play golf the way I do.
    Happiness is a warm gun.

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    • #3
      JTROKS
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Nov 2007
      • 13093

      Manually operated carbine in 9mm?
      The wise man said just find your place
      In the eye of the storm
      Seek the roses along the way
      Just beware of the thorns...
      K. Meine

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      • #4
        Hardwarejunkie
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2009
        • 840

        If you really want Glock mags I'd think you would have to go with converting a 9mm AR to bolt action.
        Otherwise, I think the company that was selling the Rhineland Arms 45acp Mauser conversions kits also offered one in 9mm.

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        • #5
          Kokopelli
          Veteran Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 3421

          Originally posted by golfish
          I've been thinking all weekend about buying dies for 9mm to load some HD rounds.
          Its suprising how well this cartridge does out of the longer barrel...suprising to me that is.
          Good luck with your search.

          http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/9luger.html
          That's some expensive plinking. I wish that test were done with economy ammo found at places like WalMart and Turners.
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          • #6
            BajaJames83
            Calguns Addict
            • Jun 2011
            • 6037

            Minus the really fancy stuff after about 8" it doesn't seem much advantage.
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            • #7
              200Apples
              -DVC- Mojave Lever Crew
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Dec 2011
              • 7217

              .38 and .357 does what 9mm does, more or less, or, in this case, less, then, more.

              I say use your semiauto pistol cartridges in your semiauto carbines, and your rimmed, revolver cartridges in your lever carbines and bolt rifles.

              But that's just me.
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              • #8
                JTROKS
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Nov 2007
                • 13093

                This setup combined with a suppressor would be ideal for close range feral pig control. A subsonic 147 grain or heavier bullet will be so quiet as it’s getting a complete powder burn around 15” of barrel.
                The wise man said just find your place
                In the eye of the storm
                Seek the roses along the way
                Just beware of the thorns...
                K. Meine

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                • #9
                  North86
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 1271

                  A 9mm bolt gun checks so many boxes, it's hard to list them all:

                  cheap to shoot (cheapest centerfire pistol caliber)
                  low recoil/recoil averse friendly
                  mag capacity (glock mags)
                  did i mention cheap to shoot? (cheapest centerfire pistol caliber)
                  suppressed, subsonic, hard hitting, yadda yadda..

                  It's kinda silly that there isn't a mainstream bolt 9, but what do I know.....
                  Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves. - William Pitt

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                  • #10
                    North86
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 1271

                    Originally posted by Ishootforblood
                    That is an interesting link. Too bad they stopped making them. Ruger makes a bolt action in .38/357 magnum. That's interesting too, but a bit expensive.
                    Yeah, $800 for a 5 shot (maybe 4) rotary mag 357 is not reasonable. I would love one, maybe for $500 msrp. These are brush guns, with limited range. That needs to be taken into account. I don't want proprietary mags, I want glock mags, 9mm, I want bolt action, I want threaded barrels and I want a rail on top of the receiver that could be extended to scout (LER Scope).

                    This is a gap, and there is opportunity for the right maker to fill that role.

                    Savage could kill with this. Accutrigger, Accustock, 16" barrel, glock mags. TAKE MY MONEY!!
                    Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves. - William Pitt

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                    • #11
                      WHH
                      Member
                      • Mar 2018
                      • 274

                      Originally posted by North86
                      A 9mm bolt gun checks so many boxes, it's hard to list them all:

                      cheap to shoot (cheapest centerfire pistol caliber)
                      low recoil/recoil averse friendly
                      mag capacity (glock mags)
                      did i mention cheap to shoot? (cheapest centerfire pistol caliber)
                      suppressed, subsonic, hard hitting, yadda yadda..

                      It's kinda silly that there isn't a mainstream bolt 9, but what do I know.....
                      None of the advantages you list are bolt gun specific, and there are some great 9mm semiautomatic carbine options. The question is: why manual operation in a cartridge that works so well in a semi-auto format?
                      Last edited by WHH; 05-06-2019, 5:59 PM. Reason: clarity

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                      • #12
                        North86
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 1271

                        Originally posted by WHH
                        None of the advantages you list are bolt gun specific, and there are some great 9mm semiautomatic carbine options. The question is: why manual operation in a cartridge that works so well in a semi-auto format?
                        They are not unique to bolt guns, that is true.

                        Why? Because I think it would be fun.
                        Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves. - William Pitt

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                        • #13
                          WHH
                          Member
                          • Mar 2018
                          • 274

                          Originally posted by North86
                          They are not unique to bolt guns, that is true.

                          Why? Because I think it would be fun.

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                          • #14
                            plumbum
                            Calguns Addict
                            • May 2010
                            • 5394

                            Originally posted by North86
                            Savage could kill with this. Accutrigger, Accustock, 16" barrel, glock mags. TAKE MY MONEY!!
                            Sadly, I would also be all over this, even without owning a suppressor. I’ll take one in 9mm and one in 10mm.
                            Originally posted by ysr_racer
                            Please don't bring logic and reason into an interwebs discussion

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