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  • desertrider
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2007
    • 1465

    Early 700P twist rate.

    I recently purchased an older 700P with a 26" barrel.

    Searching the web I came across several different sources stating a 1-12 twist rate.

    I decided to call Remington to find the exact date of manufacture based on serial number. I was told a manufacture date of 2000. I then asked what kind of rifling and twist rate, to which the reply was standard rifling (not 5R) and a twist rate of 1-10.

    I know that current SPS models with the shorter barrel is 1-10, but I've always understood that the longer 26" barrel 700P used the slower twist rate of 1-12.

    Anyone here have an older 700P with 26" barrel with documentation that states twist rate?
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    DDRH
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Mar 2008
    • 2756

    what caliber?

    i have one in 308, 26" bbl with 1/12. purchased...i think it was 2012/13

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    • #3
      sigstroker
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jan 2009
      • 19971

      Just stick a cleaning rod with patch down the barrel, watch a rotation, and measure.

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      • #4
        langss
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2009
        • 929

        I have one I bought in 2012....its 1/12 Order No. 25709

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        • #5
          desertrider
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2007
          • 1465

          Originally posted by DDRH
          what caliber?

          i have one in 308, 26" bbl with 1/12. purchased...i think it was 2012/13
          Sorry about that. It's a 308.

          Seems like the general consensus here is 1-12 for the 26" pipe also.

          Originally posted by sigstroker
          Just stick a cleaning rod with patch down the barrel, watch a rotation, and measure.
          I should have thought of that. I know what I'll be doing tomorrow.

          Originally posted by langss
          I have one I bought in 2012....its 1/12 Order No. 25709
          If the Order No. is something I can get from Remington when I supply the serial #, I'll call back and see if it includes model specific details like twist rate and barrel length.

          Thanks for the replies.

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          • #6
            jimmykan
            Veteran Member
            • Jan 2008
            • 3105

            I'll bet it's 1-12 twist. Called it.

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            • #7
              sigstroker
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2009
              • 19971

              But it really shouldn't be a concern. Nothing wrong with 1 in 12 for a .308. You're not going to be flinging 215 gr bullets out of it.

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              • #8
                Mute
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                • Oct 2005
                • 8605

                Don't know about all the generations, but circa late 1990's, I had one that was 1-12. Regardless, 1-10 will do you just fine.
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                • #9
                  desertrider
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 1465

                  Originally posted by sigstroker
                  Just stick a cleaning rod with patch down the barrel, watch a rotation, and measure.
                  Originally posted by desertrider


                  I should have thought of that. I know what I'll be doing tomorrow.

                  Well, checked it this morning. Definitely 1-12.

                  Not sure why the Remington rep on the phone insisted the rifling was 1-10. I know the SPS is 1-10, but since we were specifically discussing an older 26" barreled 700P there's no excuse for him to give inaccurate info.

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                  • #10
                    sigstroker
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 19971

                    Just an old salesman's trick. If you don't know something, just sound confident.

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                    • #11
                      desertrider
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 1465

                      Originally posted by sigstroker
                      But it really shouldn't be a concern. Nothing wrong with 1 in 12 for a .308. You're not going to be flinging 215 gr bullets out of it.
                      True. But now that I know for sure it's a 1-12 I'll focus my load development in the 155gr~168gr bullet selection range.

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                      • #12
                        ar15barrels
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 57193

                        Originally posted by desertrider
                        I recently purchased an older 700P with a 26" barrel.

                        Searching the web I came across several different sources stating a 1-12 twist rate.

                        I decided to call Remington to find the exact date of manufacture based on serial number. I was told a manufacture date of 2000. I then asked what kind of rifling and twist rate, to which the reply was standard rifling (not 5R) and a twist rate of 1-10.

                        I know that current SPS models with the shorter barrel is 1-10, but I've always understood that the longer 26" barrel 700P used the slower twist rate of 1-12.

                        Anyone here have an older 700P with 26" barrel with documentation that states twist rate?
                        In 2000, your rifle was probably a 700PSS.
                        That would be a 1:12 twist with a 24" long barrel.
                        Around 2006, the PSS was replaced by the 700P.
                        That should be a 26" barrel with a 1:12 twist.

                        Measure the barrel length from the center of the gas relief hole on the side of the reciever.
                        Does yours have a 24" or 26" barrel?
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                        • #13
                          ar15barrels
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 57193

                          Originally posted by desertrider
                          Not sure why the Remington rep on the phone insisted the rifling was 1-10. I know the SPS is 1-10, but since we were specifically discussing an older 26" barreled 700P there's no excuse for him to give inaccurate info.
                          They don't know so they just look up the current info.
                          They might not have even looked up the correct barrel length as the length effects what twist they use.
                          26" 308's get 1:12.
                          24" 5R 308's get 1:11.25
                          20" and 22" 308's get 1:10
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                          • #14
                            ar15barrels
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 57193

                            Originally posted by desertrider
                            now that I know for sure it's a 1-12 I'll focus my load development in the 155gr~168gr bullet selection range.
                            26" 1:12 308's usually run 175's very well.
                            You don't need to worry about 175's unless you had the barrel shortened to 20" or if you are running the velocity lower than common match ammo.

                            Most factory Remington barrels won't shoot 155's well.
                            Randall Rausch

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                            Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
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                            Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
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                            • #15
                              divingin
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jul 2015
                              • 2522

                              Originally posted by sigstroker
                              Just stick a cleaning rod with patch down the barrel, watch a rotation, and measure.
                              +1

                              Or, for a more detailed explanation, start a patch or brush in the rifling. With a sharpie, mark a line along the top of the rod for about 14". Mark a ring around the rod at some repeatable point (where it enters the receiver, rear of the stock, whatever you choose.) Push rod into the bore until the line along the top is back at the top. Mark another ring at the point you used the first time. Remove rod and measure the distance between the rings.

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