308 Varmint??

[condor]

On occasion I run across someone selling a Remington 700 308 Varmint and my mind starts to think... What size varmint do you need a 308 for?? Why did they even make it?? Why would anyone buy one in the first place?? I donno it just seems like a 308 belongs in an ADL or BDL ?? 308 in a varmint grade seems like over kill....

[Teachu2]

I love mine - after adding a Jewell trigger, aftermarket stock, and much better glass than the package combo. It's for those coyotes who think 500 yards is safe.....

[Xanthippus]

Well, there are two kinds of varmints.

Varmints you want to take out and varmints you want to absolutely annihilate (to send a message to the rest of those furry ****ers).

The .308 varmint is the latter. It's about the message.

[sigstroker]

Sort of like the Savage 12FV, which comes with a heavy 26" barrel, in nice varmint calibers like .204 Ruger, .223, and .22-250. But also comes in .308 and 6.5 Creedmoor.

[deadcoyote]

Sometimes, in my experience, a .308 varmint rifle is by far the cheapest route to a decent grade rifle with a heavy barrel etc.

[ar15barrels]

On occasion I run across someone selling a Remington 700 308 Varmint and my mind starts to think...
What size varmint do you need a 308 for??
Why did they even make it??
Why would anyone buy one in the first place??
I donno it just seems like a 308 belongs in an ADL or BDL ??
308 in a varmint grade seems like over kill....

They really should just call it the 308 TARGET instead of the 308 Varmint, but it's called the Varmint because it's from a whole SERIES of rifles with the same barrel contour and length.

https://www.remington.com/rifles/bolt-action/model-700/model-700-sps-varmint

[sakosf]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjgsMjOtVz0

[Gunsrruss]

Varment

Not enough twist for me....I always like 1/10 or 1/11 in .308.....Or a 1/8 for .223

[MongooseV8]

I hit a ground squirrel with a 300 win mag once at about 25 yards using a Hornady Vmax. Ive shot a bunch with a 308 too. Keep in mind other states have bigger "varmint" class pest than we do in cali and a 308 is rather popular for them.

That being said a 243AI is my favorite round after trying them all.

[smoothy8500]

Not enough twist for me....I always like 1/10 or 1/11 in .308.....Or a 1/8 for .223

Back in the early 1990's my 700 Varmint shot Fed GM Match 168's and 175's very well despite being supposedly "handicapped" with a slow twist...

[echo1]

I hit a ground squirrel, a 308 is rather popular for them.

That being said a 243AI is my favorite round after trying them all.

This rig has done what's exspected of it.
It's had some trickery done to it since this test mule photo was shot.
Thanks Mongoose. PAX

[ar15barrels]

Not enough twist for me....I always like 1/10 or 1/11 in .308.....Or a 1/8 for .223

1:12 twist is fine for 175's from a 26" long barrel.
It's only the shorter 20-22" barrels that need a faster twist due to their velocity handicap.
That's why 20" barrels are almost universally 1:10" twist.


Legit military M40's use a 24" 1:12 twist barrel and shoot almost exclusively 175 SMK's.
Do they seem to have accuracy problems?

Peak accuracy is attained with the minimum twist required for stability.

[condor]

They really should just call it the 308 TARGET instead of the 308 Varmint, but it's called the Varmint because it's from a whole SERIES of rifles with the same barrel contour and length.

Sounds good to me... I guess an elk or moose is supposed to be considered a varmint?? :-)

[Gunsrruss]

barrel twist

1:12 twist is fine for 175's from a 26" long barrel.
It's only the shorter 20-22" barrels that need a faster twist due to their velocity handicap.
That's why 20" barrels are almost universally 1:10" twist.


Legit military M40's use a 24" 1:12 twist barrel and shoot almost exclusively 175 SMK's.
Do they seem to have accuracy problems?

Peak accuracy is attained with the minimum twist required for stability.

Ok Randall I'm sold. The burning bush says it's Ok....

[RNE228]

I've only shot my early 80's vintage 308 Varmint with 165 Serra Game King and 168 Match Kings; it's a very accurate rifle out of the box.

Although I have not specifically looked for commercial varmint rounds, there has long been a selection of lighter weight varmint bullets for reloading in 30 caliber...