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  • supermario
    Veteran Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 4569

    50 BMG legality

    Hello,
    I used search but it seems every 6 months we have new laws.
    Im asking for a friend and wasnt sure on the amswer.
    Are 50 BMG single shot upper legal to buy and slap in a AR lower or for that matter any 50 BMG legal
    And im not talking about registered a.w.
    I mean new buy/build?

    Thanks for the help guys.
  • #2
    freonr22
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Dec 2008
    • 12945

    Originally posted by supermario
    Hello,
    I used search but it seems every 6 months we have new laws.
    Im asking for a friend and wasnt sure on the amswer.
    Are 50 BMG single shot upper legal to buy and slap in a AR lower or for that matter any 50 BMG legal
    And im not talking about registered a.w.
    I mean new buy/build?

    Thanks for the help guys.
    .50 Dtc is legal

    A .50 bmg shoulder fired rifle is not, to my understanding
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    Originally posted by dantodd
    We will win. We are right. We will never stop fighting.
    Originally posted by bwiese
    They don't believe it's possible, but then Alison didn't believe there'd be 350K - 400K OLLs in CA either.
    Originally posted by louisianagirl
    Our fate is ours alone to decide as long as we remain armed heavily enough to dictate it.

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    • #3
      supermario
      Veteran Member
      • Nov 2008
      • 4569

      So 50dtc or 416barrett are still legal to buy the single shot uppers for AR lowers?

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      • #4
        RickD427
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Jan 2007
        • 9266

        Originally posted by supermario
        Hello,
        I used search but it seems every 6 months we have new laws.
        Im asking for a friend and wasnt sure on the amswer.
        Are 50 BMG single shot upper legal to buy and slap in a AR lower or for that matter any 50 BMG legal
        And im not talking about registered a.w.
        I mean new buy/build?

        Thanks for the help guys.
        No.
        If you build a man a fire, you'll keep him warm for the evening. If you set a man on fire, you'll keep him warm for the rest of his life.

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        • #5
          sigstroker
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jan 2009
          • 19687

          It might be if you take off the stock and set it up with spade grips and fire it from a tripod like an M2.

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          • #6
            RickD427
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Jan 2007
            • 9266

            Originally posted by sigstroker
            It might be if you take off the stock and set it up with spade grips and fire it from a tripod like an M2.
            ^^^THIS^^^

            Only .50 BMG "Rifles" are illegal. The cartridge itself, and weapons other than "Rifles" that fire the cartridge are legal in California.

            Penal Code section 17090 defines a "Rifle" as a weapon designed to be fired from the shoulder.

            However, you should also be aware of California's "Zip Gun" statute. It's as confusing as all hell, but if you read it very narrowly, it's possible that your spade grip AR would be an illegal "Zip Gun."
            If you build a man a fire, you'll keep him warm for the evening. If you set a man on fire, you'll keep him warm for the rest of his life.

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            • #7
              radicalray
              Member
              • Dec 2012
              • 450

              50 BMG Pistol

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              • #8
                k1dude
                I need a LIFE!!
                • May 2009
                • 15132

                If you own a Registered Assault Weapon (RAW, not BBRAW), you can put a .50 BMG upper on it.

                If you don't have a RAW, there's no way to have a .50 BMG rifle in Kalistan.
                "Show me a young conservative and I'll show you a man without a heart. Show me an old liberal and I'll show you a man without a brain." - Sir Winston Churchill

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                • #9
                  Mute
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 8566

                  Unless your plan is to only shoot off the shelf ammo, it will be easier to just get a .50 DTC rifle.
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                  • #10
                    sigstroker
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 19687

                    Originally posted by RickD427
                    ^^^THIS^^^

                    Only .50 BMG "Rifles" are illegal. The cartridge itself, and weapons other than "Rifles" that fire the cartridge are legal in California.

                    Penal Code section 17090 defines a "Rifle" as a weapon designed to be fired from the shoulder.

                    However, you should also be aware of California's "Zip Gun" statute. It's as confusing as all hell, but if you read it very narrowly, it's possible that your spade grip AR would be an illegal "Zip Gun."
                    Only if the prosecutor wants to be laughed out of court. A zip gun is something someone sneaks in somewhere, not a 15 pound 3 foot long 50 upper.

                    Besides, every AR upper in California would also have to be considered a zip gun.

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                    • #11
                      freonr22
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 12945

                      Originally posted by k1dude
                      If you own a Registered Assault Weapon (RAW, not BBRAW), you can put a .50 BMG upper on it.

                      If you don't have a RAW, there's no way to have a .50 BMG rifle in Kalistan.
                      but you can have a crew serviced weapon, legally
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                      Originally posted by dantodd
                      We will win. We are right. We will never stop fighting.
                      Originally posted by bwiese
                      They don't believe it's possible, but then Alison didn't believe there'd be 350K - 400K OLLs in CA either.
                      Originally posted by louisianagirl
                      Our fate is ours alone to decide as long as we remain armed heavily enough to dictate it.

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                      • #12
                        RickD427
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 9266

                        Originally posted by sigstroker
                        Only if the prosecutor wants to be laughed out of court. A zip gun is something someone sneaks in somewhere, not a 15 pound 3 foot long 50 upper.

                        Besides, every AR upper in California would also have to be considered a zip gun.
                        Cool thought, but that's not what the statute says. Here's what a Zip Gun really is (quoted from Penal Code section 17390):

                        If you build a man a fire, you'll keep him warm for the evening. If you set a man on fire, you'll keep him warm for the rest of his life.

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                        • #13
                          sigstroker
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 19687

                          That sounds like every barrel ever made.

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                          • #14
                            RickD427
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 9266

                            Originally posted by freonr22
                            but you can have a crew serviced weapon, legally
                            Yes. This California. Don't expect the statutes to make sense.
                            If you build a man a fire, you'll keep him warm for the evening. If you set a man on fire, you'll keep him warm for the rest of his life.

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                            • #15
                              Rockit
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 1337

                              Originally posted by supermario
                              So 50dtc or 416barrett are still legal to buy the single shot uppers for AR lowers?
                              Yes

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