.223 plinker/trainer

[bug_eyedmonster]

Hi All!

So, I spoke with Marc yesterday about building a .223 plinker to match my hunting rifle. I found it somewhat unrealistic to be poking at squirrels and stuff walking around my friend's ranch with a 7mm mag. I also wanted something I can shoot at the range with ease, and something my wife could shoot and enjoy. Figuring this would also be quicker and easier to toss around while camping as well, the shorter the better. I have a few questions now, and wanted to get some thoughts.

1. Action options. I was hoping the Defiance Tenacity would be offered with a bolt face that would work with the .223, but it does not seem to be the case. Marc is going to call them today, but I doubt it will be happening anytime soon. What other options should I look at? He expressed concerns about with a titanium previously, so I haven't given them much thought since i plan to shoot this more.

2. Barrel profile. I'm currently running a 26" sendero profile Proof barrel on the hunting rifle, how should I expect it to balance with a 20" bull barrel from Proof? Should I just stick with the sendero profile, and stop trying to compensate for girth?

3. My hunting rifle currently has a Leupold VX-6 3-18 on there. I initially wanted to swap it out after saving up for a March 3-24x52, but now that money is going into the plinker build since I like the Leupold. Either way, both options seem like overkill on a .223, what should I look into?

[baih777]

Check PTG. They sell Rem 700 blueprints actions.

[LynnJr]

If it's meant to be a short plinker you can toss around why spend that kind of money on a action?
A good barrel on just about any action will meet your requirements but pick an action that allows you to grow down the road or upgrade if that's your end goal.

[sigstroker]

To me, the best setup would be a switch-barrel or switch-lug that would allow you to use your main competition rig, with chassis, trigger, scope, and action remaining unchanged (except maybe the bolt or bolt face) and just swapping in the barrel and bolt stuff and re-dialling your scope.

Not only would it be cheaper but you would be practicing with your real match rig.

[bug_eyedmonster]

If it's meant to be a short plinker you can toss around why spend that kind of money on a action?
A good barrel on just about any action will meet your requirements but pick an action that allows you to grow down the road or upgrade if that's your end goal.

Buy once, cry once. Honestly, I don't see it as a huge difference in cost between a trued Rem700 vs a PTG/Defiance Tenacity/XXXX at this point. I just want something that will shoot and I can enjoy. If it means a bit more money, not a huge deal.

Check PTG. They sell Rem 700 blueprints actions.

Yeah, if the Tenacity wont be offered with the bolt face I need, then this is a viable option as well.

To me, the best setup would be a switch-barrel or switch-lug that would allow you to use your main competition rig, with chassis, trigger, scope, and action remaining unchanged (except maybe the bolt or bolt face) and just swapping in the barrel and bolt stuff and re-dialling your scope.

Not only would it be cheaper but you would be practicing with your real match rig.

I'm currently hunting with a 7 mag, which is a long action. I have no idea how the switch barrel would work or if that's even possible to swap to a .223. Aside from the length of the action, I'd have to also get a different bolt too. Aside from the action size and barrel length, everything else will be essentially the same. I'm just trying to figure out the optic side of it now.

This isn't a PRC match rifle set up, this is for hunting. Besides, Marc is currently building me a switch barrel between .308 and 6.5CM

Jerry

[diver160651]

.223 plinker/trainer

Buy once, cry once. [emoji3] Honestly, I don't see it as a huge difference in cost between a trued Rem700 vs a PTG/Defiance Tenacity/XXXX at this point. I just want something that will shoot and I can enjoy. If it means a bit more money, not a huge deal.







Yeah, if the Tenacity wont be offered with the bolt face I need, then this is a viable option as well.







I'm currently hunting with a 7 mag, which is a long action. I have no idea how the switch barrel would work or if that's even possible to swap to a .223. Aside from the length of the action, I'd have to also get a different bolt too. Aside from the action size and barrel length, everything else will be essentially the same. I'm just trying to figure out the optic side of it now.



This isn't a PRC match rifle set up, this is for hunting. Besides, Marc is currently building me a switch barrel between .308 and 6.5CM [emoji3]



Jerry

Hi,

Any reason you are doing a switch 308/6.5? They are soo close. Makes sense in my head if you wanted a hot round/low life 6mm and a switch to a long life that eats easily available match factory for 308 or 6.5..

Not saying your wrong in anyway. Just interested in your choice.





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[bug_eyedmonster]

Hi,

Any reason you are doing a switch 308/6.5? They are soo close. Makes sense in my head if you wanted a hot round/low life 6mm and a switch to a long life that eats easily available match factory for 308 or 6.5..

Not saying your wrong in anyway. Just interested in your choice.





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It's a weird one, I know. The reasoning behind this set up is very similar to what SigStroker commented on. I wanted something that I can shoot further out when needed for intermediate rifle classes, with the option of cheap ammo and shorter barrel. This way, the stock, optic, etc are the same, but the ammo consumption could be more carefully watched. I've got a TON of .308 ammo, from mil surplus to Federal 168 GMM to my current reloads already in .308. During the ammo panic, I bought several cases of 6.5CM factory ammo in various bullet weights and will have brass to reload with. I have considered going from the 6.5 to 6CM, but that's the beauty of the switch barrel. Marc can cut whatever barrels I want for the short action when needed. He's two blocks from my work, so it makes things easy. If there was a way to do this with the long action, I would have, but since there is not, the .223 build was the next viable plan.

[diver160651]

It's a weird one, I know. The reasoning behind this set up is very similar to what SigStroker commented on. I wanted something that I can shoot further out when needed for intermediate rifle classes, with the option of cheap ammo and shorter barrel. This way, the stock, optic, etc are the same, but the ammo consumption could be more carefully watched. I've got a TON of .308 ammo, from mil surplus to Federal 168 GMM to my current reloads already in .308. During the ammo panic, I bought several cases of 6.5CM factory ammo in various bullet weights and will have brass to reload with. I have considered going from the 6.5 to 6CM, but that's the beauty of the switch barrel. Marc can cut whatever barrels I want for the short action when needed. He's two blocks from my work, so it makes things easy. If there was a way to do this with the long action, I would have, but since there is not, the .223 build was the next viable plan.

Thanks


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[FishnHunt]

here is another guys 223, hand loads, 1/8 twist.
off the shelf tikka.

[JackEllis]

Hi All!

So, I spoke with Marc yesterday about building a .223 plinker to match my hunting rifle. I found it somewhat unrealistic to be poking at squirrels and stuff walking around my friend's ranch with a 7mm mag. I also wanted something I can shoot at the range with ease, and something my wife could shoot and enjoy. Figuring this would also be quicker and easier to toss around while camping as well, the shorter the better. I have a few questions now, and wanted to get some thoughts.

1. Action options. I was hoping the Defiance Tenacity would be offered with a bolt face that would work with the .223, but it does not seem to be the case. Marc is going to call them today, but I doubt it will be happening anytime soon. What other options should I look at? He expressed concerns about with a titanium previously, so I haven't given them much thought since i plan to shoot this more.

2. Barrel profile. I'm currently running a 26" sendero profile Proof barrel on the hunting rifle, how should I expect it to balance with a 20" bull barrel from Proof? Should I just stick with the sendero profile, and stop trying to compensate for girth?

3. My hunting rifle currently has a Leupold VX-6 3-18 on there. I initially wanted to swap it out after saving up for a March 3-24x52, but now that money is going into the plinker build since I like the Leupold. Either way, both options seem like overkill on a .223, what should I look into?

[bug_eyedmonster]

here is another guys 223, hand loads, 1/8 twist.
off the shelf tikka.

Wow.

Yeah, I don't doubt the ability of the rounds or the rifles out there, but I wanted something different, and something that would benefit my deer rifle as well. I'm not sure what to expect, but my deer rifle in 7 mag shoots pretty accurate.

Jerry

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[bernieb90]

I have been thinking of getting a Savage .223 with heavy 1/7 barrel for the same reason.

[REDdawn6]

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