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  • #61
    kendog4570
    Calguns Addict
    • Dec 2008
    • 5180

    Originally posted by LynnJr
    Load your ammo like Benchrest shooters and you will never have a problem.

    And I think we all got insulted by KenDog. Calling us Guffsters Now that is insulting.

    I said I was coming off like the Guffmeister!


    Bet you don't know what I am talking about...! Mere mortals cannot even begin to comprehend.

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    • #62
      kendog4570
      Calguns Addict
      • Dec 2008
      • 5180

      Lets take this back to the Mystery Wrench level.

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      • #63
        diver160651
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2012
        • 1764

        Originally posted by LynnJr
        Load your ammo like Benchrest shooters and you will never have a problem.
        LOL that is EXACTLY the true..

        BR guys take it all to the edge.. obviously they push precision to what it is today. All of us benefit...but not exactly by duplicating every process.

        Guys laying in the powder dirt or tank traps etc were the drill is to f with accuracy.. can not reload with many of the tolerances nor techniques like jamming with low tension. So if we try to modify what the bad *** BR guys do, but the needed jump can dick with or ES if we don't do something different for field guns.

        No free lunch..
        Last edited by diver160651; 06-14-2018, 9:17 PM.
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        • #64
          LynnJr
          Calguns Addict
          • Jan 2013
          • 7958

          Diver
          Get the powder charge spot on and seat the bullets with a comparator to within 0.001 and you will be more than happy.

          At our 2000+ yard matches I like to pull a bullet out of a round by hand then re-install it and hit the gong. I show the shooters the pressure ring on the flatbase bullet and how it clicks into the neck.
          Last edited by LynnJr; 06-15-2018, 4:19 AM.
          Lynn Dragoman, Jr.
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          • #65
            diver160651
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2012
            • 1764

            Originally posted by LynnJr
            Diver

            At our 2000+ yard matches I like to pull a bullet out of a round then re-install it and hit the gong.
            I learned something.. not sure it is more than academic. But then this, really Lynn, whatever drives the need to always add that part, it's lame...

            Jim
            Last edited by diver160651; 06-14-2018, 11:42 PM.
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            • #66
              LynnJr
              Calguns Addict
              • Jan 2013
              • 7958

              Diver
              It's to show new shooters that on properly prepared brass you can't make a mistake. The flatbase bullets have a pressure ring and they will seat and reseat to the same location each time even if done by hand without dies.
              Lynn Dragoman, Jr.
              Southwest Regional Director
              Unlimited Range Shooters Association (URSA)
              www.unlimitedrange.org
              Not a commercial business.
              URSA - Competition starts at 2000 yards!

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              • #67
                LynnJr
                Calguns Addict
                • Jan 2013
                • 7958

                KenDog
                I have been on many forums were the Guffster got the boot for his cryptic nonsense.
                It's fun watching him telling some of the top machinists in the US they don't know how to measure brass and then he brings up his 30-06 Mauser and gets the boot.
                Lynn Dragoman, Jr.
                Southwest Regional Director
                Unlimited Range Shooters Association (URSA)
                www.unlimitedrange.org
                Not a commercial business.
                URSA - Competition starts at 2000 yards!

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                • #68
                  JMP
                  Internet Warrior
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 17056

                  Originally posted by ar15barrels
                  I don't recommend converting a factory remington bolt to a sako extractor.
                  When you change the location of the extractor from the middle of the left lug to ABOVE the left lug without also rotating the ejector plunger in the boltface, you are dramatically changing the ejection angle.



                  The ejection angle is a product of the extractor location combined with the ejector plunger location.
                  The 700 action was designed with the extractor in the middle of the left lug and then the ejector plunger is located to get the fired case to fly out of the ejection port.
                  Changing the location of the extractor is changing the design of the action.



                  I have seen lots of problems where the fired cases will bounce off the scope knob and end up backwards in the action.

                  If you want to change to a different type of extractor, the right solution is to get a whole new bolt with the extractor cut already made and the ejector rotated appropriately in the boltface.
                  PTG makes them to order.
                  Figure on having the headspace and maybe the endspace corrected on your barrel as well if you are NOT also rebarrelling when you get the new bolt.
                  To add, here is a factory Remington bolt next to Sako bolts. Their orientation has been designed as such (in both 2-lug and 3-lug bolts). I think it makes no sense to convert a Remington bolt to a Sako extractor unless you have a specific reason to do so.

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