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Remington 700 or Mossberg MVP?
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The Remingtons I've seen have a slow twist, 1 in 12. Bullets much heavier than 60 grains won't stabilize well. The Howa 1500 has a 1 in 9 twist and shoots bullets at least as heavy as 69 grains well. Under $350 online.Comment
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I have an MVP. It would be harder to come up with a wonkier bolt. Multiple parts associated with the flapper round stripper. Action is wobbly & sticky.
...but it DOES take AR magazines, so there is that. It's a Mossberg.
"He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog.
You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart.
You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion."
Originally Posted by JackRydden224
I hope Ruger pays the extortion fees for the SR1911. I mean the gun is just as good if not better than a Les Baer.Originally posted by redcliffA Colt collector shooting Rugers is like Hugh Grant cheating on Elizabeth Hurley with a hooker.
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Mine was a little sticky when I first got it. It's not sticky anymore as far as the wobble goes, it's wobble is not much more than a 03 Springfield and is close to same as my 98 Mausers.sigpic
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"He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog.
You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart.
You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion."
Originally Posted by JackRydden224
I hope Ruger pays the extortion fees for the SR1911. I mean the gun is just as good if not better than a Les Baer.Originally posted by redcliffA Colt collector shooting Rugers is like Hugh Grant cheating on Elizabeth Hurley with a hooker.
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Never had a tube fed bolt action, isnt that mostly for .22lr or leverguns? Anyway, neither the R700 or MVP uses a tube magazine. As for detachable box magazines (DBM) in bolt actions it really comes down to user preference. Bolt action hunting rifles arent really designed for suppressive fire so a DBM is not really necessary. Bolt guns are more for precise shots, one shot = one kill. A 3 rd internal magazine is adequate for most bolt gun applications like big game hunting. I shoot pretty slowly with my bolt guns and my milsurps have stripper clip guides. I did however convert my R700 to a DBM with the magpul stock and DBM kit. It uses AICS pattern mags which are pretty universal. I like it more than the internal magazine because it is way easier to load and unload for me. I dont like trying to load an internal magazine round by round its hard for me to drop the rounds in under the optic mount and push them in evenly. I can also use 10rd AICS magazines which look really funny but its about the only way to get a 10rd capacity in a .30cal bolt gun.Last edited by Tere_Hanges; 04-09-2018, 11:29 PM.CRPA and NRA member.
Note that those who have repeatedly expressed enough vile and incoherent content as to render your views irrelevant, have been placed on my ignore list. Thank you for helping me improve my experience and direct my attention towards those who are worthy of it. God bless your toxic little souls.Comment
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I have owned Mossberg MVPs in both 5.56 NATO and 7.62 NATO (still have the 5.56 one, but sold the 7.62 version).
I have owned Remington 700s in both 223 and 308 (still have the 223 one, but sold the 308 version in favor of 6mm and 6.5mm versions).
The MVP actions are a bit sloppy and clunky to operate, but they work. Cool thing is that they accept AR magazines of the appropriate caliber (AR-15 for 5.56 and DPMS/SR-25 for 7.62). They come with relatively thick, short barrels, accuracy is respectable (just verify that the scope base screws are properly torqued from the factory, ask me how I know hehe).
The 700 actions are much tighter yet smoother to operate, but you pay a bit more for that. Heavy barrel models exhibit great accuracy out-of-the-box, especially the 5R versions.Comment
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Thomson compass.
Cheap, accurate and a good value.
If your punching paper a fixed Mag is fine imo.https://youtu.be/cnDPn52q5Ik
WTB m&p 9 5?

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