Rifle build

[kriller134]

[longrange1]

I have a bighorn origin action on preorder and should be getting it by summer. Here’s what I have in mind for parts.

Bighorn Origin
MPA BA Competition Chassis
Calvin elite 2 stage or trigger tech not sure yet
Criterion, shilen, pva Pre-fits barrel? Or shouldered barrel?

Bighorn Origin...great action but personally id of opted for a TL-3 if i was limited to big horn

MPA BA Competition Chassis...im a chassis hater but i love this chassis...im running one on my comp rifle as well as my 22

Calvin elite 2 stage or trigger tech not sure yet...neither one...while i shot the CE for several years and it is a great trigger i recently switch to a Bix n Andy two stage tac sport and wish ida done it a LONG time ago

Criterion...ive only shot one of the criterions and will NEVER buy another ive SEEN to many ppl have issues with them

shilen...great barrels but id take a pre-fit bartlein fromm bug holes if my only choice was a pre-fit

pva Pre-fits barrel...can not comment no experience with them

Or shouldered barrel...YES if you want your rifle set up the best it can be buy a blank and have it chambered and fitted to your action

[Wrangler John]

Criterion, shilen, pva Pre-fits barrel? Or shouldered barrel?

I have used prefits from Bergara, Shilen, Criterion and Pac-Nor, for Savage target Actions and Remington 700's and a 783. All attach with barrel nuts, with the Shilen and Pac-Nor being the most accurate, especially the Pac-Nor polygonal rifling Super Match barrels. One 700 action has three barrels chambered for ,22-250 Remington, .22-250 Ackley and .308 Winchester. I lost nothing using the prefit configuration with a barrel nut.

.223 Remington, 10 shots 100 yards, Savage Target Action, Pac-Nor polygonal 1:9" Twist:



Remington 700 with prefit Bergara varmint barrel, cost $285.00, 1-12" twist, first test loads:



First 10 shots from Shilen Varmint contour Match barrel, .204 Ruger 1:12" twist, settled after two shots:



Finally, .308 Winchester Pac-Nor barrel, 1:10" polygonal rifling, on same action as Bergara barrel above. 10 Shots at 100 yards:



Don't sell the prefits short, and you can swap barrels yourself in a few minutes.

[kriller134]

Thanks guys for the info. The pacnor and shilen barrel looks great. Does bartlin make a Pre-fits barrel?

[smoothy8500]

I'm happy with my short-chambered Shilen pre-fit on a Rem 700. Chambers finished with a Manson pull-thru reamer.

[ar15barrels]

Does bartlin make a Pre-fits barrel?

No.
People who use bartlein barrels are looking for the highest possible quality/accuracy attainable.

That is always achieved with a properly shouldered/fitted barrel.
Pre-fit barrels have to have threads at "nominal" dimension so that they will screw into every example of a specific model.
That means the threads fit loosly in most receivers.

When a barrel is fitted to a specific receiver, the thread fit can be tightened up so that the barrel has almost no slop.
This can make a significant difference in accuracy.

Go read Harold Vaugh's book "Rifle accuracy facts".
He does an experiment on thread fit and directly documents the movement of the barrel within the reciever that is attributed to the "factory" thread fit compared to a custom thread fit.

[kriller134]

No.
People who use bartlein barrels are looking for the highest possible quality/accuracy attainable.

That is always achieved with a properly shouldered/fitted barrel.
Pre-fit barrels have to have threads at "nominal" dimension so that they will screw into every example of a specific model.
That means the threads fit loosly in most receivers.

When a barrel is fitted to a specific receiver, the thread fit can be tightened up so that the barrel has almost no slop.
This can make a significant difference in accuracy.

Go read Harold Vaugh's book "Rifle accuracy facts".
He does an experiment on thread fit and directly documents the movement of the barrel within the reciever that is attributed to the "factory" thread fit compared to a custom thread fit.

Thanks for the info Randall. What do you charge to chamber and fit a barrel?

[ar15barrels]

Thanks for the info Randall. What do you charge to chamber and fit a barrel?

$250

[kriller134]

$250

Does that include muzzle threading?

[ar15barrels]

Does that include muzzle threading?

No.
My bolt action services are all explained and priced on 700barrels.com.

[longrange1]

Thanks guys for the info. The pacnor and shilen barrel looks great. Does bartlin make a Pre-fits barrel?

bartlein directly does not but like i said in my post above southern precision rifles(bug holes)does...but once you factor everything in you can have a smith install a barrel and it would cost a little less.

ive shot several pre-fit barrels and they shot good but not as good as a fitted shouldered barrel.

http://www.bugholes.com/category-s/2041.htm

[kriller134]

bartlein directly does not but like i said in my post above southern precision rifles(bug holes)does...but once you factor everything in you can have a smith install a barrel and it would cost a little less.

ive shot several pre-fit barrels and they shot good but not as good as a fitted shouldered barrel.

http://www.bugholes.com/category-s/2041.htm

[longrange1]

The problem with skimping is you regret it after words...trust me I know first hand


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[sigstroker]

You chose some spendy components for that budget. Chassis, action, and trigger in the OP are going to eat a lot of that 2300. Cutting back a little in those areas would allow you more for your barrel.

[bsumoba]

skimping out on the barrel is the last thing you want to do. Most chassis do the same thing, same with the trigger and action.

Most will argue scopes are an area you do not want to skimp on and I agree.

But, barrels can make or break the rifle. Get a bad barrel, bad chambering or mediocre quality anything with respect to the barrel and the gun will not shoot well regardless.