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  • sdnative13
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 653

    Shooting/teaching advice

    I would appreciate some feedback on the following situation. I have twin daughters who are about to turn 7 and are always asking me to take them shooting/hunting. I have had a cricket 22 from my older kids and recently took them out to shoot at a club i belong to. Nothing technical, just had them aim at a 3'x3' steel target so that would get auditory feedback when they hit it (trying to keep it fun). Since then they have asked to go again so i took an old crosman 760 pellet gun, shortened the stock, and have been shooting in the back yard from ten yard at clay targets. They are having a blast but here is my dilemma. Do I worry about form/technique (proper mount, keeping check on the stock, etc.) or just let them have fun. I just don't want them to be developing bad habits or poor muscle memory. Right now they are hitting the clays but their form drives me batty. Any suggestion. I apologise if this is the wrong place for such question
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    sd joe
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2010
    • 767

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    • #3
      Divernhunter
      Calguns Addict
      • May 2010
      • 8753

      It is better to gently teach proper form now than try to correct bad form later. I have taught a number of kids and started my daughter on a 22RF at 4.5 years old. To teach it you 1st need a firearm that fits them and they can handle. Do not throw too much at them at a time. Fun is very important if you want them to keep shooting.
      A 30cal will reach out and touch them. A 50cal will kick their butt.
      NRA Life Member, NRA certified RSO & Basic Pistol Instructor, Hunter, shooter, reloader
      SCI, Manteca Sportsmen Club, Coalinga Rifle Club, Escalon Sportsmans Club, Waterford Sportsman Club & NAHA Member, Madison Society member

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      • #4
        sdnative13
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2012
        • 653

        Thanks guys. Sd joe a problem i am having is gun fit. Mainly lop on a plastic stock. Sure on the 22 its wood and fits them nice but they only get to shoot that once a month at best because of travel time etc. Whereas with the pellet gun we can shoot everyday. Ive cut the stock but im just guessing on appropriate lop.

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        • #5
          Thefeeder
          Calguns Addict
          • Jun 2007
          • 5006

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          Don't know if your have them shoot with a rest or not.

          My advise is to make it bit more difficult so that a teaching moment rises.

          Perhaps shooting off hand at the clays @ 5 yards then 7 then 15 at some point "form" will be the prohibiting factor in making hits....thats when "let me show how to hit that target" comes in.

          And I'll agree 100% ....a decent fitting gun will be needed to teach proper form...no way to show a child how to hold a rifle if its way to long in the stock

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          • #6
            duckman1
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Aug 2009
            • 3693

            It has to stay fun or they'll lose interest. That being said work the technique stuff in a little at a time. Just be sure they are still having fun.

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            • #7
              RandyD
              Calguns Addict
              • Jan 2009
              • 6673

              If I was in the same situation, my priorities would be safety, then fun, then technique. If they are having fun, they will maintain interest and will be open to adjusting their technique to be more accurate. If shooting becomes overly technical, then the fun goes away along with their interest, and that is something to avoid.
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              • #8
                XVIga_Rob
                Senior Member
                • May 2012
                • 2354

                Originally posted by RandyD
                If I was in the same situation, my priorities would be safety, then fun, then technique. If they are having fun, they will maintain interest and will be open to adjusting their technique to be more accurate. If shooting becomes overly technical, then the fun goes away along with their interest, and that is something to avoid.

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                • #9
                  sdnative13
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 653

                  When we shoot in the back yard it is off hand at ten yards. Being twins they are very competitive with one another so this increases their desire to do well. Based on the comments so far i think i am on the right track. That you everyone for the replies.

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                  • #10
                    wpage
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 6071

                    Agree with safety 1st, form, and fun...
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                    John 3:16

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                    • #11
                      LynnJr
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 7956

                      Fit is the number one reason people have bad form.
                      Cut the stock so it fits and let them enjoy shooting.
                      Lynn Dragoman, Jr.
                      Southwest Regional Director
                      Unlimited Range Shooters Association (URSA)
                      www.unlimitedrange.org
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                      URSA - Competition starts at 2000 yards!

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                      • #12
                        sdnative13
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2012
                        • 653

                        Ok so based on the replies i think im doing things the right way. Another question i have is what is the preferred method to measure lop? A quick google search gave me many different methods but im not sure which one is correct.

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                        • #13
                          RandyD
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 6673

                          Length of pull is the distance from the trigger to the end of the stock. I shoot smallbore competition where we have adjustable stocks and most everyone uses a different length of pull in each of the different positions, so in my opinion, there is no one length of pull that is optimal for every position. What you want is a general length of pull that will enable your kids to use the rifle in a variety of positions. I would use the general rule of gripping the rifle stock with the strong hand, and insure the stock is long enough to touch the inside crease of the elbow. This length of pull should allow the shooter to easily mount and hold the rifle properly.
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                          • #14
                            CG11
                            Member
                            • Oct 2017
                            • 216

                            Correct them gently, one thing at a time. They will thank you for keeping them on the path later.
                            I'm not that happy to see you - It's a gun.

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                            • #15
                              sd joe
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 767

                              Measure crotch of the elbow to the end of the index finger.

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