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  • Subotai
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    • Jun 2010
    • 11289

    One brand of ammo for scoped rifles?

    I heard that there is enough variation in one box of ammo, that trying to stick with one brand is pretty useless. I'm not talking precision shooting, I'm talking minute of cantalope at, say, 300 yds. What do you think? Buy pretty much any brand? Or try to stick with one?
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    MongooseV8
    Veteran Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 4426

    Buy a bunch of the same ammo and same lot number. Thats the best you can do with factory ammo. But most modern rifles can easily hit a melon at 300 yards. If you are switching back and forth between different factory loads then you could easily miss your next shot though.

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    • #3
      FourT6and2
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2012
      • 1928

      Originally posted by frankm
      I heard that there is enough variation in one box of ammo, that trying to stick with one brand is pretty useless. I'm not talking precision shooting, I'm talking minute of cantalope at, say, 300 yds. What do you think? Buy pretty much any brand? Or try to stick with one?
      Depends on the brand and ammo. I shoot 100% factory Hornady 140gr ELDM 6.5 Creedmoor ammo at $23/box. And it has been fantastically consistent WITHIN THE SAME LOT. From box to box within the same lot, it shoots great. Change to a new lot and I have to re-zero. And I do precision shooting. 1,000 yards. Sometimes farther. No problems hitting a 66% IPSC target at 1,000 on the first shot.

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      • #4
        NorCalFocus
        Veteran Member
        • Aug 2013
        • 3913

        Originally posted by frankm
        I heard that there is enough variation in one box of ammo, that trying to stick with one brand is pretty useless. I'm not talking precision shooting, I'm talking minute of cantalope at, say, 300 yds. What do you think? Buy pretty much any brand? Or try to stick with one?
        You heard wrong.

        Switching factory ammo, means different bullets, powder, primers, and even brass. If you were reloading you wouldn't change all of those at one time and expect the same results.

        One factory ammo in your gun may shoot minute of melon at 300 yards, but try another and it can be minute of VW.

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        • #5
          Wren1911
          Member
          • Feb 2017
          • 190

          Buy a few boxes of different ammo.Try them out and figure out which your rifle likes.Then stick with one.

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          • #6
            JackEllis
            Veteran Member
            • Nov 2015
            • 2731

            Accuracy isn't the only reason to try out different types of ammo. My .223 and .243 are made by Tikka. The .243 won't chamber cheap, brass cased ammo made by PPU. The .223 won't chamber Aguila's cheap, brass cased ammo. A friend's Kimber in .30-06 wouldn't set off primers on Remington Core-Lokts that I've NEVER had trouble with on my Winchester.

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            • #7
              Subotai
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jun 2010
              • 11289

              I had bought some American Eagle 308 because "according to ballistics" I've read, they have close trajectories to my Core-Lokts. Maybe my logic here is faulty and it doesn't matter that much for a non-precision guy.

              I'm wondering if I should buy some bulk 7.62x51 before 1-1-18 or stick with AE.
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              • #8
                baih777
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                • Jul 2011
                • 5680

                You should try different weight ammo also. Find what shoots out of your rifle with the smallest grouping.
                147 gr, 150 gr, 168gr, 175gr.
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                • #9
                  Subotai
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                  • Jun 2010
                  • 11289

                  Maybe my question should be:

                  Can I shoot any brand 308 ammo at 300 yards and hit a cantalope every time without having to zero in again? Meaning, for any given ammo, could the difference in POI be >8" @ 300 yds.
                  Last edited by Subotai; 11-17-2017, 2:26 PM.
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                  • #10
                    russ69
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 9348

                    Originally posted by frankm
                    Maybe my question should be:

                    Can I shoot any brand 308 ammo at 300 yards and hit a cantalope every time without having to zero in again? Meaning, for any given ammo, could the difference in POI be >8" @ 300 yds.
                    Yes it can.
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                    • #11
                      Subotai
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 11289

                      Originally posted by russ69
                      Yes it can.
                      Dang. I was hoping I could do like with an AR, shoot any 5.56 cause I only care about minute of man.
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                      • #12
                        NapalmCheese
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 5952

                        Originally posted by frankm
                        Dang. I was hoping I could do like with an AR, shoot any 5.56 cause I only care about minute of man.
                        Well, people are bigger than cantaloupes.
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                        • #13
                          Subotai
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jun 2010
                          • 11289

                          Originally posted by NapalmCheese
                          Well, people are bigger than cantaloupes.
                          Well, if you're insinuating head shots, I don't know what you're talking about.
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                          • #14
                            JackEllis
                            Veteran Member
                            • Nov 2015
                            • 2731

                            Can I shoot any brand 308 ammo at 300 yards and hit a cantalope every time without having to zero in again? Meaning, for any given ammo, could the difference in POI be >8" @ 300 yds
                            Yes. In fact, I shoot three different types of factory ammunition in my .30-06 and the POIs are within an inch or two. I've had similar results with different types of rimfire ammo.

                            Generally speaking, though, you want to check the zero if the bullet weight or type changes from the same manufacturer, or if you use a different manufacturer's ammo.

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                            • #15
                              Subotai
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jun 2010
                              • 11289

                              Yeah, having a hard time stocking up on 308. Thought I might be able to just pick up a bunch of cheap milspec and increase my round count.
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