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  • #16
    Jimmy's
    Veteran Member
    • May 2016
    • 2600

    Originally posted by fatfreadiescat
    6.5-300 weatherby. 140 grn
    The elk I took this year was a one shot kill at 200 yards.
    He fell into his footprints and never moved again
    Thats a great caliber but even a 30-30 would have made that shot.

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    • #17
      fatfreadiescat
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2011
      • 669

      Doesn't have the recoil of my 30-30, and shoots with a 6 inch drop at 300 yds.
      Tell me the 30-30 will do that.

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      • #18
        Jimmy's
        Veteran Member
        • May 2016
        • 2600

        Originally posted by fatfreadiescat
        Doesn't have the recoil of my 30-30, and shoots with a 6 inch drop at 300 yds.
        Tell me the 30-30 will do that.
        I too have a 6.5-300 I was one of the first to get one, check the actual recoil numbers as well as your drop numbers you are way off and I laugh that you brag that a 300 yard shot with a 6.5 anything was a task. LOL Like I said the 30-30 will do those shots if you know what you doing.
        Last edited by Jimmy's; 10-22-2017, 12:17 PM.

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        • #19
          Horrendo Revolver
          Senior Member
          • May 2015
          • 1013

          Originally posted by fatfreadiescat
          Doesn't have the recoil of my 30-30, and shoots with a 6 inch drop at 300 yds.
          Tell me the 30-30 will do that.

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          • #20
            Jimmy's
            Veteran Member
            • May 2016
            • 2600

            LOL. It's actually about 30 ftlbs I believe a 30-30 runs less than half that.

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            • #21
              fatfreadiescat
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2011
              • 669

              Can't care,
              not the first or probably the last time I've been called a lair online.

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              • #22
                FishnHunt
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2015
                • 1112

                280
                All of them do something better than the 30-06, but none of them do everything as well.

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                • #23
                  juanito
                  Member
                  • Jan 2015
                  • 160

                  I have a buddy who inherited a 264 Win Mag from his Dad.It has to be 30+ years old.Maybe shoots a box or 2 a year But brings home Elk every year he goes to Colorado.Ive shot it twice and definitely kicks more then my 7mm-08.Beatiful rifle though.

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                  • #24
                    TMB 1
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 7153

                    264 Win mag and 7mm Rem mag use same case.
                    The introduction of Remington's 7 mm Magnum in 1962 almost immediately eclipsed the .264 Win. Mag., even though the 264 Win. Mag. uses an identical brass cartridge case (the neck diameter of either cartridge case can easily be modified to accept the others' bullets by the handloader), it never fully recovered from the competition of the slightly larger-bore cartridge.[4][5]

                    The fact that the 7 mm Rem. Mag. thoroughly eclipsed its popularity has been attributed to many causes, the premature "burning out" of barrels as compared to the Remington cartridge often cited. More likely is the fact that hunters had more confidence in the game-getting ability of heavier 7 mm (.284") 150 to 175 grain spitzer-shaped projectiles on big game, as compared to 140 grains being the upper end of pointed .264 bullets.
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                    • #26
                      condor
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 1102

                      Originally posted by TMB 1
                      264 Win mag and 7mm Rem mag use same case. The fact that the 7 mm Rem. Mag. thoroughly eclipsed its popularity has been attributed to many causes, the premature "burning out" of barrels as compared to the Remington cartridge often cited. More likely is the fact that hunters had more confidence in the game-getting ability of heavier 7 mm (.284") 150 to 175 grain spitzer-shaped projectiles on big game, as compared to 140 grains being the upper end of pointed .264 bullets.
                      I think nowdays that would be labeled as fake news. Personally I've never seen or heard of a .264 burning out a barrel. I'm sure there have been some, just like about every other caliber that's had 2000 rounds through it.

                      One of the big reasons I liked the 264 win mag is it shoots like a frozen clothesline out to 200yds. Put the cross hairs on the target and send it. As far as the 140gr being effective it will take down Antelope, Deer, Moose, and Elk. Unless you're going on a safari what more do you need?? IMHO...
                      Last edited by condor; 10-23-2017, 11:52 AM.
                      WITHOUT THE 2nd THERE WON'T BE A 1st...]

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                      • #27
                        Divernhunter
                        Calguns Addict
                        • May 2010
                        • 8753

                        The 264 would work fine on Safari. I was going to take mine but took my 257W and it worked fine. If I get to go again I would seriously consider the 264win mag along with the trusty 338win mag.
                        The 7mag burns out barrels just like the 264 so it is a toss up on that issue.
                        A 30cal will reach out and touch them. A 50cal will kick their butt.
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                        • #28
                          k1dude
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • May 2009
                          • 15132

                          Both .260 and .264 are good. Also consider the 6.5 Creedmoor. They're all similar. The Creedmoor is supposed to be more efficient than the .260 and it's the popular round these days because of that. It'll also have better resale as a result. If you're willing to go with the longer .264, you should also consider the 6.5 x 55 Swede. You can't go wrong with any of the 4.
                          Last edited by k1dude; 10-23-2017, 11:35 AM.
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                          • #29
                            ar15barrels
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                            • Jan 2006
                            • 57136

                            Originally posted by condor
                            Personally I've never seen or heard of a .264 burning out a barrel.
                            That's because most people that own them only fire about 3-5 rounds per year through them to check zero at hunting camp.
                            It takes a LONG time to wear them out when used in this manner.
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                            • #30
                              condor
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 1102

                              Originally posted by Divernhunter
                              The 264 would work fine on Safari. I was going to take mine but took my 257W and it worked fine. If I get to go again I would seriously consider the 264win mag along with the trusty 338win mag.
                              The 7mag burns out barrels just like the 264 so it is a toss up on that issue.
                              You're probably right for the smaller stuff, but 99.9% of american hunters will never get that experience.
                              What did I mean to say?? OK..unless you're going on safari you won't need anything bigger??.... OK??
                              Last edited by condor; 10-23-2017, 11:57 AM.
                              WITHOUT THE 2nd THERE WON'T BE A 1st...]

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