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  • rick_b23
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2016
    • 27

    HELP! Can't decide on which rifle I want!

    Hey Guys,
    HELP! I seam to be at an impass. I want to purchase a new rifle. So far I have whittled my choices down to 3 manufacturers. Henry, Remington, or Howa. I have also whittled down my choices in caliber. .308 Win. or .30-30 or 45-70. I love both lever action and bolt action. So, I am assuming the caliber choice will determine weather it will be lever or bolt action. I have been researching the Henry All Weather Stainless Steel Lever Action Rifle in .30-30 Caliber. Model H009AW. Or the same manufacturer in the 45-70 caliber. (beautiful guns!). But... as a ameture gun enthusiast. I know that the good old American Remington rifles are the Chevy 350s of the gun world. The workhorses, ole dependable. Super easy to obtain parts, easy to repair and relatively inexpensive. And I have experience with the Rems. I have been researching the 700 series Remingtons. I am overwhelmed! The configurations are endless! But, during my research I have learned that Howa produces MANY different brand rifles. So that being said... I am now back to square 1. It seams that the more research I do. The more questions it conjures. I should also mention that I am no way a wealthy man so money IS an issue. But for the sake of my research I am NOT focusing on the money at this time. I am strictly focusing on the rifles. I am inviting ANY feedback, arguments, comments, or opinions. So PLEASE feel free to jump right in to this conversation!
    Last edited by rick_b23; 09-05-2017, 6:56 PM.
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    baih777
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Jul 2011
    • 5680

    It really depends on what you sre going to do with the rifle. Collectable. Target shooting. Hunting.
    Been gone too long. It's been 15 to 20 years since i had to shelf my guns. Those early years sucked.
    I really miss the good old Pomona Gun Shows.
    I'm Back.

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    • #3
      ToOTHroTT
      Senior Member
      • May 2013
      • 619

      Get all three you only live once and cant take the money with you.
      Keep Smiling!!!!

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      • #4
        Jimmy's
        Veteran Member
        • May 2016
        • 2600

        What is your intended use for the rifle?

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        • #5
          Milsurps
          Senior Member
          • May 2010
          • 2232

          The only input I can give is, Henry although beautiful well made lever actions, the tube feed/load stops me cold.

          YMMV

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          Last edited by Milsurps; 09-05-2017, 12:50 PM.
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          • #6
            MyOdessa
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            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Mar 2011
            • 2521

            Take that one, its really, really good.

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            • #7
              Wren1911
              Member
              • Feb 2017
              • 190

              I can't help you on which brand of rifle.However bolt action I would go .308,ammo is easy to find but most ammo is pointed so not so good for lever actions.For lever action I would go 30-30 if you don't reload,45-70 if you do reload.Both are great cartridges,but 45-70 ammunition is harder to find and way more expensive to buy.My personal favorite is .308 bolt action,i own 2 of them.

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              • #8
                rick_b23
                Junior Member
                • Jul 2016
                • 27

                Gentlemen, What great input!! EVERY COMMENT has made perfectly good sense!!! Also to answer the question . What is my intended purpose for the rifle? Long distance target shooting. And a personal collection to pass down to my sons when they are old enough and responsible enough to own firearms. And, I would like to comment on the tube magazine issue. That IS a deal breaker! It has affected my purchases in the past! For sure!

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                • #9
                  baih777
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 5680

                  308 or 6.5 creedmore bolt action.
                  Remington.

                  One of these.



                  Buy a chassis or stock. Buy a trigger and buy a DBM.

                  Years down the road. This was dads rifle.
                  Last edited by baih777; 09-05-2017, 2:56 PM.
                  Been gone too long. It's been 15 to 20 years since i had to shelf my guns. Those early years sucked.
                  I really miss the good old Pomona Gun Shows.
                  I'm Back.

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                  • #10
                    condor
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 1102

                    Buy 'm all.... It's the American way.....
                    WITHOUT THE 2nd THERE WON'T BE A 1st...]

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                    • #11
                      RNE228
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2013
                      • 2458

                      .308 is just fine for lever action:
                      New - Browning BLR or Henry Long Ranger.
                      Used - Savage 99, Winchester 88, Browning BLR

                      I shoot Savage 99 in 300 Savage(parent cartridge to 308). It is a sweet shooter... Rotary magazine, round counter, classic lines...

                      Originally posted by Wren1911
                      I can't help you on which brand of rifle.However bolt action I would go .308,ammo is easy to find but most ammo is pointed so not so good for lever actions.For lever action I would go 30-30 if you don't reload,45-70 if you do reload.Both are great cartridges,but 45-70 ammunition is harder to find and way more expensive to buy.My personal favorite is .308 bolt action,i own 2 of them.

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                      • #12
                        rm1911
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 4073

                        Don't discount the 45-70

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                        • #13
                          RNE228
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2013
                          • 2458

                          Same could be said of silly loading gate too... Box mag on Browning BLR is much nicer than silly loading gate. And Savage 99 rotary internal mag is sweet...

                          Originally posted by Milsurps
                          The only input I can give is, Henry although beautiful well made lever actions, the tube feed/load stops me cold.

                          YMMV

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                          • #14
                            DrewN
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 1887

                            Originally posted by RNE228
                            Same could be said of silly loading gate too... Box mag on Browning BLR is much nicer than silly loading gate. And Savage 99 rotary internal mag is sweet...
                            Tube is faster than a gate for most folks as well. Just not cowboy enough, I expect.

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                            • #15
                              JTROKS
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                              • Nov 2007
                              • 13093

                              The 45/70 in a strong lever action will take any big game and dangerous animal in North America. It's not a long range round, but if you get within 250 yards and don't flinch then your solid gold. 405 grain level 2 loads will get your attention and don't get too close to the scope if you don't have an intermediate eye relief scope.
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