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  • Rocketman99
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2016
    • 595

    Anyone running a Proof Research barrel?

    Anyone have any actually hands-on experience with the Proof Research carbon barrels?

    Pros-Cons?

    Tons of reviews online but most of them seem to be sponsored and trying to get sponsored by Proof.
  • #2
    Donnovin
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Dec 2010
    • 571

    Pros: Much lighter than comparable steel barrel, relatively precise; in my experience, POI stable cold bore through 10 rds rapid fire; some excellent smiths are confident in working with them.
    Cons: ~3X the cost of comparable steel barrel; some smiths are hesitant to guarantee their work on this barrel.

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    • #3
      Kingair001
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2015
      • 2357

      Originally posted by Rocketman99
      Anyone have any actually hands-on experience with the Proof Research carbon barrels?

      Pros-Cons?

      Tons of reviews online but most of them seem to be sponsored and trying to get sponsored by Proof.
      A lot of good and bad reviews on the Proof

      But apparently Proof has it all together now

      I have a Hardy Rifle Engineering carbon fiber wrapped barrel on my PRS rifle but I stil need to shoot it
      WTB : Bren Ten - WTB : Wildey 45 & 475 Magnum

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      • #4
        ar15barrels
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2006
        • 57166

        I have put a few proof barrels on receivers for people.
        I have gotten several comments that they wander just like a skinny barrel as soon as they heat up.
        On a hunting rifle, this is not a concern.
        I would not recommend them for a target rifle.

        It's interesting to note that proof sponsored shooters usually do not use the carbon wrapped barrels on their match guns.
        There is probably a reason for that.
        Randall Rausch

        AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
        Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
        Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
        Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
        Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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        • #5
          Kingair001
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2015
          • 2357

          Originally posted by ar15barrels

          It's interesting to note that proof sponsored shooters usually do not use the carbon wrapped barrels on their match guns.
          There is probably a reason for that.
          Correct Randal !
          WTB : Bren Ten - WTB : Wildey 45 & 475 Magnum

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          • #6
            Wren1911
            Member
            • Feb 2017
            • 190

            Originally posted by ar15barrels
            I have put a few proof barrels on receivers for people.
            I have gotten several comments that they wander just like a skinny barrel as soon as they heat up.
            On a hunting rifle, this is not a concern.
            I would not recommend them for a target rifle.

            It's interesting to note that proof sponsored shooters usually do not use the carbon wrapped barrels on their match guns.
            There is probably a reason for that.

            Any recommendations on a prefit?Or can you do a custom barrel for a RPR?

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            • #7
              damon1272
              Veteran Member
              • Aug 2006
              • 4857

              Originally posted by ar15barrels
              I have put a few proof barrels on receivers for people.
              I have gotten several comments that they wander just like a skinny barrel as soon as they heat up.
              On a hunting rifle, this is not a concern.
              I would not recommend them for a target rifle.

              It's interesting to note that proof sponsored shooters usually do not use the carbon wrapped barrels on their match guns.
              There is probably a reason for that.
              Randal,
              Good to know. Was considering a proof barrel for a 6.5 creed more build. Time to lift more weights.

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              • #8
                Vigilante
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2006
                • 647

                Originally posted by ar15barrels
                I have gotten several comments that they wander just like a skinny barrel as soon as they heat up.
                That's interesting, because I've seen the opposite. My sample size is small, 3 Sendero-Light contour barrels, but they have all hammered out decent 10 shot groups, anywhere from sub-MOA to about 2". OK, 2" isn't super impressive, but that gun has a 26" barrel chambered in .300 Mag, and those 10 shot groups were consecutive shots with no cooling in between.

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                • #9
                  CRTguns
                  Veteran Member
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 2627

                  here's just one more instance where a nicely contoured, button rifled and hand lapped chrome-moly barrel outshoots a PROOF: (the CMV barrel is onle 3.5 ounces heavier...and 1/3 the price)

                  Who doesn't love America's favorite rifle — the AR-15. For the last few years, the AR-15 has rapidly become the 1911 of rifles. There are options for customization so thorough that companies like Brownells now ship a special catalog just for the options available. And every time I think everything possible has been done, a company proves me wrong. This week, Cobalt Kinetics shipped two models of rifle for testing, and I was not disappointed.

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                  • #10
                    Jimmy's
                    Veteran Member
                    • May 2016
                    • 2600

                    The Carbon wrap is a gimmick!

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                    • #11
                      Kingair001
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2015
                      • 2357

                      Originally posted by Jimmy's
                      The Carbon wrap is a gimmick!
                      For competition . . . perhaps

                      But for a hunting rifle . . .
                      WTB : Bren Ten - WTB : Wildey 45 & 475 Magnum

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                      • #12
                        Jimmy's
                        Veteran Member
                        • May 2016
                        • 2600

                        Originally posted by Jimmy's
                        The Carbon wrap is a gimmick!
                        Originally posted by Kingair001
                        For competition . . . perhaps

                        But for a hunting rifle . . .
                        Absolutely not needed. Some may want it but there are other ways to trim fat and they all cost way less.

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                        • #13
                          Kingair001
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2015
                          • 2357

                          Originally posted by Jimmy's
                          Absolutely not needed. Some may want it but there are other ways to trim fat and they all cost way less.
                          Why not ?

                          Let people experiment and if it works . . . good for all of us

                          Or at least for the ones who want to spent the money
                          WTB : Bren Ten - WTB : Wildey 45 & 475 Magnum

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                          • #14
                            Rocketman99
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2016
                            • 595

                            Originally posted by ar15barrels
                            I have gotten several comments that they wander just like a skinny barrel as soon as they heat up.
                            And this was my concern. They claim no POI shift after shooting strings and that the carbon helps distribute the heat more evenly to allow for less POI shift and faster cool down. Interesting your customers are saying the opposite of what Proof states.

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                            • #15
                              Vigilante
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 647

                              Originally posted by CRTguns
                              here's just one more instance where a nicely contoured, button rifled and hand lapped chrome-moly barrel outshoots a PROOF: (the CMV barrel is onle 3.5 ounces heavier...and 1/3 the price)

                              https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/b-m...s-full-review/
                              That's not exactly definitive evidence. The guy shot one load through the guns, and the steel barrel shot only slightly better, and I mean slightly. A true test would include several factory loads and maybe even some handloads. He also acted like the Black Hills load that he tested was something special and would produce guaranteed excellent groups. I've had guns that shot 2" 3-shot groups @ 100 yards with BH match ammo, but the same guns could shoot well under 1" with other factory loads. I'm not saying that I dislike BH ammo, because I do like BH, but accuracy with factory ammo is never a slam dunk.

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