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  • orossb
    Junior Member
    • Jun 2017
    • 8

    Help Identify Grandpa's Rifle

    Hi Folks,

    Grandpa passed, I got his rifle... trying to figure out what it is...

    Calipers show its right at .300 (I don't know enough about rifle calibers to know if this could be a .300 or .308)


    Searching google for pics, etc.. makes me think it might be a Winchester 70 based on the stock shape (last pic below)... but would rather get your opinion.

    Pics below... thanks in advance. (apologies for the large pics..)




















    the closest i found in stock design was this pre-64 Winchester 70... the stippling was different, but felt close to enough to think Winchester.. but unsure on the year...
    this is not grandpas gun... stippling is similar, but different...

    Last edited by orossb; 07-02-2017, 12:12 AM.
  • #2
    DaveInOroValley
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Jan 2010
    • 8967

    The checkering definitely looks Winchester:

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    • #3
      FLIGHT762
      Veteran Member
      • Mar 2009
      • 3072

      Sporterized 1917 US Enfield with the original barrel in 30/06.

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      • #4
        orossb
        Junior Member
        • Jun 2017
        • 8

        thanks dave...

        the pic you show is similar to the last picture in my post (which is not grandpas..) not sure how much winchester had different designs back then..


        i know grandpa was a winchester fan, as I did get a Winchester centennial 30/30 carbine from him as well..

        thx for the response..

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        • #5
          djc1965
          Junior Member
          • Aug 2015
          • 32

          Custom eddystone?

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          • #6
            orossb
            Junior Member
            • Jun 2017
            • 8

            thx flight & djc...

            i got some googling to do... appreciate the leads... looks like plenty to read up on...

            grandpa lived in burlingame, so near you flight.. and i wonder if thats why the optics were local (orinda)..

            thx folks... appreciate it...

            any reason I shouldn't clean and shoot it? (edited)
            Last edited by orossb; 07-02-2017, 12:15 AM.

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            • #7
              FLIGHT762
              Veteran Member
              • Mar 2009
              • 3072

              The rifle should clean up fine. If the bore looks good, I would have no hesitation shooting it. Buehler was a well known scope mount company in Orinda, Ca. I think the scope may be an old Weaver. You could up grade to a newer, 1" scope.

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              • #8
                kendog4570
                Calguns Addict
                • Dec 2008
                • 5180

                Originally posted by FLIGHT762
                Sporterized 1917 US Enfield with the original barrel in 30/06.
                That is exactly what it is. Nice job on the magazine reduction to 5 round capacity and removing the "belly" of the original. Most likely in 30-06, but many were converted to 30-338 and 308 Norma Mag back in the day.

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                • #9
                  Garand Hunter
                  Veteran Member
                  • Feb 2016
                  • 2786

                  Yes it is a US Enfield 1917. Built like a tank. Shoot it if you want to hunt with it.

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                  • #10
                    condor
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 1102

                    I own a sporterized Remington model 17 (1944) in 300 H&H. Could be?? The offset bolt handle is the same...
                    WITHOUT THE 2nd THERE WON'T BE A 1st...]

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                    • #11
                      LynnJr
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                      • Jan 2013
                      • 7958

                      I think Remington built a sporter version from 1920-1940 called the model 30 but don't quote me on that.
                      The gun pictured looks like a 1917 sporterised.
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                      • #12
                        offrdmania
                        Veteran Member
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 4053

                        I have my grandfathers sporterized 1917. Luckily, when it was sporterized, they left the rear sight ears intact and left the barrel length original. I plan to convert it back to full military spec. Unfortunately with the OPs, it will never be able to be made to military spec ever again because too much of the original has been cut off or altered.
                        It is a nice early sporter though OP.
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                        • #13
                          Full Clip
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 10263

                          I have my grandfather's sported M1917 as well. Also have the bill of sale from the War Department: Cost $5 as surplus, with $1 shipping. He hunted elk in Alaska with it. I've taken three deer with it.

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                          • #14
                            buffybuster
                            Veteran Member
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 2615

                            Looks like it's a M1917 that's been sporterized to a Remington Model 30 configuration.
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                            • #15
                              condor
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 1102

                              Originally posted by LynnJr
                              I think Remington built a sporter version from 1920-1940 called the model 30 but don't quote me on that.
                              The gun pictured looks like a 1917 sporterised.
                              OK I won't... :-) It's buried in the safe, but I have it in inventory as a sporterized 17 300H&H. It I remember correctly it had some interesting proof marks. One was a bombburst. It's my understanding that after the war a lot of them were sporterized and the cal of choice was the 300H&H.
                              WITHOUT THE 2nd THERE WON'T BE A 1st...]

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