Yugo 24/47 Scout Rifle

[DennisCA]

Before you purist start crucifying me - these mod's are completely reversible.





And of course with the bayonet (just for the heck it);



The only reason I put a scout scope on was I couldn't see the damn sights!
(Haven't a chance to shoot it with the new stuff on it - should be fun!)

[oc16]

always wanted one of those but the dam scope and undrill mount cost a bit to much for my blood.

[plumbum]

Luv it! Nice leather, which mounts is that?

[jr-abs]

Here is my 24/47. Complete "scout" makeover. Hope the photos work

[Jimmy's]

The above Sporter version is OK! except I would toss the irons and cut the barrel back a couple inches.

[Johnny Lightning]

Nice looking

[DennisCA]

In case anyone is interested here's the brand names of the stuff and where I bought them.
The mounts are:
S&K - INSTA-MOUNT SCOUT MOUNTS (From Brownell's)
The scope rings are:
HUNTER RINGS 1" LOW (Also from Brownell's)
The Scope is:
BSA 2X20 Edge Series Pistol Scope (Bought on Amazon)
The cheek rest is:
Tourbon-Ammo-Pouch-Cartridges-Holder-Cheek-Rest-Pad-Rifle (Bought on Ebay)

[1859sharps]

Before you purist start crucifying me....

which purists? the scout rifle purists or the C&R purists?

[hambam105]

Dennis,
Without all purity parts you bullets won't go very fast. Ha Ha.
8MM, right?

[DennisCA]

which purists? the scout rifle purists or the C&R purists?

C&R Purist

Is there such a thing as scout rifle purists?

[1859sharps]

C&R Purist

Is there such a thing as scout rifle purists?

LOL...yep there is, it's why I asked.

on the other hand, from a C&R perspective, the Germans experimented with fore mounted scopes in ww2 so your not too out of bounds C&R wise. I believe it is where cooper got the idea to try out the forward mounted scope.

[hambam105]

Forward mounted scopes were used successfully in WW1 according to the author, McBride, in his book, A riflemen went to war.

Just as in using iron peep-sights, a forward mounted scope needs a good amount of light. A scope mounted over the rifle's action with the lens closer to the shooter's eye should gather available light better than the naked eye.

[splithoof]

Ok, I'll bite:
What criteria are you using to call this a "Scout" rifle?.....
(Don't worry, as a Scout Rifle enthusiast I am not one who bites or trolls, just interested in what others use to define the term).

[1859sharps]

Just as in using iron peep-sights, a forward mounted scope needs a good amount of light.

The scout scope is meant to be used similar (but not identical) to iron sights, vs how we use a more "traditional" scope. I don't know they need a "good amount of light", I haven't run into that personally, but it has been observed that at sun rise and set due to the angle of the sun the currently available scout scopes can struggle a bit.

it should be noted though, that while Cooper felt that the forward mounted scope was the way to go and offered advantages in field of view, being able to keep both eyes open and facilitated the snap shot, he is also on record saying a forward mounted scope does not a scout rifle make. He said this a few times to address two issues.

1. first was people who were taking overly heavy, long rifles and slapping a forward mounted scope calling it a scout, and then wondering what the point of a scout rifle was. there is more to a scout rifle than it's sighting systems.

2. the other is...mounting a low powered "traditional" scope didn't suddenly make your scout rifle not a scout rifle. in fact it is part of the check list in building a scout rifle that you have the ability to use iron sights, traditional scope, and the forward mounted scope. the Steyr and the new "recon scout" are the only options that this can be done with. The ruger comes close, but requires you remove the rear sight to use a traditional scope.

remember the scout rifle is about being general purpose, and while the forward mounted scope has some advantages, not being able to swap out for a "traditional" scope cuts into the goal of a general purpose rifle that can do just about anything for you. also, scouts don't require scopes at all. Cooper talked several times about running around Central America with scout 1 using only iron sights.

A scope mounted over the rifle's action with the lens closer to the shooter's eye should gather available light better than the naked eye.

If the light is gathered at the objective end of the scope, how does the scope being close to the eye aid in gathering light?

[jr-abs]

Another thing to consider is DBM vs stripper clips. The detachable magazine may be lost or damaged. Stripper clips need the action unencumbered by a scope and will load 5 rounds faster than a DBM can be exchanged. A rear peep sight can be set low, out of the way but have index marks to quickly reset the 100 or 200 yard zero. A damaged scope can be removed quickly with a coin or qr lever rings. The 2 main problems with the Mauser action for a "scout" concept rifle is weight and a firm bolt lift that pulls away from the target.