Aftermarket Triggers (700 SA)

[hardlyworking]

Looking into aftermarket triggers for Rem 700 Short Action I have a couple questions.

First this is for a do-it-all (I know, I know) rifle practice/hunting/field maybe some competition, no bench rest (but I'm still looking for BR shooters input). So I'm *not* looking for sub 1 lb. pull weights.

I hear the Timney 510 is kind of the standard response, but I also hear good things about TriggerTech and many other manufacturers.

I like the idea of an adjustable pull weight, but then that's more moving parts, more things to go wrong. Haven't made up my mind, maybe you can help.

Also the newer flat-face designs? Is this just a fad? People who *teach others to shoot* do you find this helps your students learn good trigger technique better than the traditional curved? Rifle is sitting in an XLR chassis so it has an Ergo pistol-grip nearly 90 degrees to the stock if that makes a difference in your recommendations.

I'd like to keep things under $200 if possible, but the whole point of a 1-gun set up is to maximize the money spent so I'm not afraid if suggestions creep higher than that.

So for a trigger that pulls >1 pound, could get wet, could get a little dirty, may be hot, may be cold, has a safety and bolt release do I need to look beyond the Timney? Or do I just order up everyone's go-to? Or do I just use the stock adjustable trigger that's already on there?

Lend me your thoughts!
I thank you in advance.

[duckman1]

I put a Timney in my hunting 700 12 years ago, it's been dirty, cold, wet, dropped, and hot, it's never failed to go bang. I'll buy another.

[thai562]

I installed Jewell's trigger on all my Rem 700s.

Jewell does offer trigger with safety and bolt release, but it will be a little over $200. You can get them for less than $200 if you are will to wait for deals.

Right out of the package, the trigger is set at 3.5lb, which is perfect for me, and for most people.

[divingin]

No idea which are considered better or worse, but I have a Timney in my 700 Varmint, and I like it quite a bit. Much better than the original trigger (breaks cleaner, lighter pull.)

I have the flat face; I like that you can, if desired, place your finger lower on the trigger face and get a bit more leverage. It's not so pronounced that you'll be accidentally tripping the trigger; it's more subtle (and may well be more of a mental thing.)

Had to do a bit of adjustment to get the bolt release to work correctly, nothing more than tweaking the sheet metal to get it to not drag on stuff - no worries, as I think the instructions said that was a normal condition. Other than that it was a plug and play replacement.

Good luck with whatever you go with.

[NorCalFocus]

I would not go Jewel or Timney CE for a field gun.

Haven't tried a Trigger Tech, but I do like their product.

[ar15barrels]

Looking into aftermarket triggers for Rem 700 Short Action I have a couple questions.

First this is for a do-it-all (I know, I know) rifle practice/hunting/field maybe some competition, no bench rest (but I'm still looking for BR shooters input). So I'm *not* looking for sub 1 lb. pull weights.

I hear the Timney 510 is kind of the standard response, but I also hear good things about TriggerTech and many other manufacturers.

I like the idea of an adjustable pull weight, but then that's more moving parts, more things to go wrong. Haven't made up my mind, maybe you can help.

Also the newer flat-face designs? Is this just a fad? People who *teach others to shoot* do you find this helps your students learn good trigger technique better than the traditional curved? Rifle is sitting in an XLR chassis so it has an Ergo pistol-grip nearly 90 degrees to the stock if that makes a difference in your recommendations.

I'd like to keep things under $200 if possible, but the whole point of a 1-gun set up is to maximize the money spent so I'm not afraid if suggestions creep higher than that.

So for a trigger that pulls >1 pound, could get wet, could get a little dirty, may be hot, may be cold, has a safety and bolt release do I need to look beyond the Timney? Or do I just order up everyone's go-to? Or do I just use the stock adjustable trigger that's already on there?

Lend me your thoughts!
I thank you in advance.

The idea of the flat faced triggers is that you can move further down the shoe and get more leverage, giving you a lighter pull.
I prefer a curved shoe because it puts your finger in the same place, making your hand position on the gun more consistent.
The more consistent you are on the whole gun, the better you will shoot.

For a gun that needs to work in all conditions (dirty), stick with a single lever trigger.
Most of the "premium" triggers which will go sub 1.5lb are double lever triggers.
Single lever triggers are more reliable because you can clear the dirt out of them by simply raking the trigger shoe front-back a few times.
Double lever triggers have a 2nd lever which is controlled by a very light spring and that lever will NOT be forced to move when you rake the trigger.
When dirt gets in there and sticks the 2nd lever, you have to flush out the trigger with lighter fluid.
This usually means removing the action from the stock as well.

My recommendation is the Timney 510 for guns that must work in the dirt.

[cocorador]

I have quite a few Huber Concept triggers. Love them. I have them on my hunting rifles. Unfortunately, they are not adjustable by the user, but I like mine set similar to a Accuracy International trigger. These are 2 stage triggers but they do make single stage triggers also. Not cheap, but when I bought mine they were more expensive. Now at around $300 it's a little more reasonable for the high quality item they are. In fact I'll be buying another one for the multicaliber build I'm working on now.


If you live near Livermore, I can let you try them out.

[RR.44]

I put a 510 in my 700 .223 Varmint, I'm in the process of getting another one for a Milspec 700

[vintagearms]

I have a Jewell, a Timney 510 and a Huber set at 1.5. Pluses and minuses to all of them. Don't have a specific favorite. For field use, I personally agree with Ar15barrels, get the Timney.

[G-Man WC]

The idea of the flat faced triggers is that you can move further down the shoe and get more leverage, giving you a lighter pull.
I prefer a curved shoe because it puts your finger in the same place, making your hand position on the gun more consistent.
The more consistent you are on the whole gun, the better you will shoot.

For a gun that needs to work in all conditions (dirty), stick with a single lever trigger.
Most of the "premium" triggers which will go sub 1.5lb are double lever triggers.
Single lever triggers are more reliable because you can clear the dirt out of them by simply raking the trigger shoe front-back a few times.
Double lever triggers have a 2nd lever which is controlled by a very light spring and that lever will NOT be forced to move when you rake the trigger.
When dirt gets in there and sticks the 2nd lever, you have to flush out the trigger with lighter fluid.
This usually means removing the action from the stock as well.

My recommendation is the Timney 510 for guns that must work in the dirt.

The voice of reason....coming from someone qualified and knows what there talking about.-g

[DGoodale]

I just put a Timney Calvin Elite in my R700. 20 years ago I had the factory trigger tuned years ago down to about 3 lbs., it was great but the CE is a whole 'nuther world. Adjustable from 8oz to 2.5lb. Highly recommend. Great deal at OTM Tactical.

[3100FPS]

The Timney Calvin Elite is a great trigger but I've had 3 go down on me. Timney replaced them with new triggers. I have a Trigger Tech Special adjusted all the way down and it still feels too heavy for me. I've used a Timney 510 in the past, it was ok but never failed. I'm thinking about replacing the Trigger Tech with a Bix n Andy Tacsport trigger. I've shot a rifle with a Bix n Andy Marksman trigger and it was the smoothest trigger I've ever felt but I can't justify the $500 price tag.

[TKCastle]

The idea of the flat faced triggers is that you can move further down the shoe and get more leverage, giving you a lighter pull.
I prefer a curved shoe because it puts your finger in the same place, making your hand position on the gun more consistent.
The more consistent you are on the whole gun, the better you will shoot.

For a gun that needs to work in all conditions (dirty), stick with a single lever trigger.
Most of the "premium" triggers which will go sub 1.5lb are double lever triggers.
Single lever triggers are more reliable because you can clear the dirt out of them by simply raking the trigger shoe front-back a few times.
Double lever triggers have a 2nd lever which is controlled by a very light spring and that lever will NOT be forced to move when you rake the trigger.
When dirt gets in there and sticks the 2nd lever, you have to flush out the trigger with lighter fluid.
This usually means removing the action from the stock as well.

My recommendation is the Timney 510 for guns that must work in the dirt.

RR,

Whats your consensus on the trigger tech that uses a cylinder between the trigger and sear? will this suffer the same problem with dirt?

Sorry to hijack.

[doubleactiononly]

Have you seen this article about what competitors in PRS use for triggers?

I recently got a Triggertech trigger for my 700. It's miles better than the garbage stock trigger, but I've never tried a Timney or Jewell so I can't compare.. Also haven't had it long enough to run into any reliability issues.

[bombadillo]

I just put a Timney Calvin Elite in my R700. 20 years ago I had the factory trigger tuned years ago down to about 3 lbs., it was great but the CE is a whole 'nuther world. Adjustable from 8oz to 2.5lb. Highly recommend. Great deal at OTM Tactical.

Completely agree, the Calvin Elite is an outstanding trigger and really not that bad on the price. I really am a trigger horror and we'll throw an AR gold trigger into an AR-15 that only cost 500 bucks if that says anything