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  • SFgiants105
    • Aug 2010
    • 1247

    20 MOA Rail to the end of a barrel?

    I'm looking at some 308 bolt actions rifles (probably a r700), and I want one with iron sights if it doesn't come with them. Are there any picatinny rails meant to be mounted onto barrels? (1" - 2") I would use it to mount a front sight to the end of the barrel (I can have the holes drilled for me by a smith). If so, I'd appreciate any links.

    Also, what are good iron sights for the 308? I'd like something with accurate yardage adjustments? Ideally, I don't want to spend more than $150 for a set. Thanks!
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  • #2
    Rbutler
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2009
    • 675

    cant you just solder a front site post?

    or these look like they press fit

    primer, powder, projecile, press, load, fire repeat!

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    • #3
      milotrain
      Veteran Member
      • Apr 2011
      • 4301

      Accurate irons added to a bolt action for less than $150? That's a tall order.

      Ruger Gunsight has irons on it.
      CZ 550 has irons.
      There might be others, but I don't think you are going to get anything of quality that tracks well for $150, certainly not after installation.
      weg: That device is obsolete now. They replaced it with wizards.
      frank: Wait a minute. There are more than one wizard? Is [are?] the wizard calibrated?

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      • #4
        kendog4570
        Calguns Addict
        • Dec 2008
        • 5180

        Various companies offer short sections of rail that can be fitted to your barrel. If you want to come reasonably close point of aim/impact you will have to do some math to figure out the right height combinations and barrel diameter at the mounting point (or bed the rail section to match), and then hope you can come close with off the shelf parts from various makers. For backup/field irons on a tactical style bolt gun I have installed the NECG Weaver rear, and a Trijicon/Scattergun Tech post front for a 12 gauge. Not very adjustable, nor repeatable, but very handy.

        GOOD iron sights is a very subjective subject.
        You might want to re think your budget.
        Last edited by kendog4570; 04-29-2017, 6:57 AM.

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        • #5
          highpower790
          Veteran Member
          • Jun 2013
          • 3481

          I no where a set of Paramount sights can be had.
          Keep it simple!

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          • #6
            Whiterabbit
            Calguns Addict
            • Oct 2010
            • 7585

            My 2 cents, for what they are worth.

            #1 your best bet is buying a rifle model that has irons already.

            #2 picatinny rail mounded front sights are for AR's. A std vanilla bolt rifle with a rail on the front with fold up irons would be very bizzare.

            #3 I am sure Williams makes something easily within your budget minus the adjustability. Easily. Having installed a couple sights from Williams, I don't recommend it. However, if you want to cheap out on sights, IMO Williams is the best way to do it.

            #4 NECG sights are expensive. Really expensive. But, you get more than what you pay for, and it shows the first time you pull the trigger. I really, recommend buying from NECG. It hurts until range day, then you understand.

            #5 I'm not sure where you could get a slider-bar rear sight assembly, but I am sure they exist. If you want something traditional, NECG does make a 3-leaf sight



            That would get you 4x distances. say, 100, MPBR, 250, 400? You can pick whatever you want of course.

            I actually own that sight base, and I paired it with a banded hooded front sight, also NECG. That's where your budget would get blown away. But it makes for a very handsome gun.

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            • #7
              milotrain
              Veteran Member
              • Apr 2011
              • 4301

              To answer your question without concern for the budget:

              The proper front sight is mounted to your barrel by having a tenon turned at the muzzle either .75" or you can get a dovetail cut into the barrel. Then you buy a riles adapter and a 22mm tube mount for front sight irises or lenses. You could also get an anchutz tube with dovetail mount and sight inserts in it. That's the cheapest best option.






              This lyman 90 rear sight is good, it's not the best but it's cheap compared to the best. Have a gunsmith set it to the right height for your front sight and develop your own zeros for the ranges you want to shoot.



              Then mount a 510 iris to the back so you get some adjustability



              All the above and you are in for about $250 without the gunsmithing.
              weg: That device is obsolete now. They replaced it with wizards.
              frank: Wait a minute. There are more than one wizard? Is [are?] the wizard calibrated?

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