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  • R.Mac
    Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 164

    Opinions on muzzle device.308

    Savage/ McMillan stock, 26" bull barrel .308, Vortex Razor. Shooting off bench with Atlas bipod, this rifle jumps off target bad! Thoughts on muzzle brake/device that looks and works worth a poop?
  • #2
    Hairball
    Senior Member
    • May 2013
    • 799

    That's not a brake issue, that's a shooting fundamentals issue. Load the bipod and it will help or you could switch to a front bag while shooting off a hard bench. You could go with any number of brakes for a 308 but I don't think that will totally solve the issue.

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    • #3
      jimmykan
      Veteran Member
      • Jan 2008
      • 3092

      If the muzzle is already threaded, I recommend the APA Little B*stard Gen II

      Our muzzle brakes are an industry leader!  Our Gen 2 is a two-piece design that allows the shooter to quickly install or remove their muzzle brake for whatever reason.  Say goodbye to crush washers, peel washers, or the need for a professional installation. Your hands and a crescent wrench are all that is needed.  We o


      If the muzzle is not threaded yet, have a gunsmith thread it and fit a APA Little B*stard Gen I brake.

      The LB is the little brother to the FB. We needed a smaller platform for rifles that couldn't handle a large brake. The LB can be turned down .850 diameter to blend completely as if it were an integral part of the barrel a non-magnum cartridge. Magnum cartridges should not be turned down.

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      • #4
        CandG
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        • Apr 2014
        • 16970

        Originally posted by Hairball
        That's not a brake issue, that's a shooting fundamentals issue. Load the bipod and it will help or you could switch to a front bag while shooting off a hard bench. You could go with any number of brakes for a 308 but I don't think that will totally solve the issue.
        Hold the buttstock hard into your shoulder, too. My rifle always gets away from me when I don't have it firmly planted against my shoulder.

        Anyways, please let us know some specifics about your barrel, so we can help you select a brake. Not all brakes fit all kinds of muzzles. Is it threaded? If so, what thread size? If not threaded, do you want something that's clamp-on? (I don't recommend clamp-on ones, by the way). As others mentioned, having your barrel threaded professionally might be a good way to go.

        Without some specifics about your barrel muzzle, asking for recommendations for a muzzle break is like asking for recommendations on wheels "for a vehicle".
        Last edited by CandG; 03-28-2017, 10:42 AM.
        Settle down, folks. The new "ghost gun" regulations probably don't do what you think they do.


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        • #5
          PaperPuncher
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2009
          • 999

          I tend to agree with working on your shooting position and fundamentals. Not meant to sound condescending at all so hopefully it does not come off that way.

          A brake will help with recoil and some help with climb as well but a solid shooting position will do far more to keep you on target through recoil.

          APA brakes are good to go. As others have mentioned, you my need a gunsmith to install. I agree with cockedandglocked, I don't like/rec. clamp on brakes.

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          • #6
            hj_S14
            Calgunner
            CGN Contributor
            • Jun 2013
            • 1288

            damn, I didn't know there's clamp on brakes.

            Originally posted by PaperPuncher
            I tend to agree with working on your shooting position and fundamentals. Not meant to sound condescending at all so hopefully it does not come off that way.

            A brake will help with recoil and some help with climb as well but a solid shooting position will do far more to keep you on target through recoil.

            APA brakes are good to go. As others have mentioned, you my need a gunsmith to install. I agree with cockedandglocked, I don't like/rec. clamp on brakes.

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            • #7
              CandG
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              • Apr 2014
              • 16970

              Originally posted by hj_S14
              damn, I didn't know there's clamp on brakes.
              They are great for making muzzle-brake-shaped holes at 100 yards

              They're just really difficult to align properly with the bore, and if they aren't centered well enough it will adversely affect the rifle's accuracy. Even if you get it perfectly centered, it may not stay that way very long.
              Settle down, folks. The new "ghost gun" regulations probably don't do what you think they do.


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              • #8
                NorCalFocus
                Veteran Member
                • Aug 2013
                • 3913

                Yes your drive through the recoil may need some work. But I understand shooting off those hard benches. They are the hardest thing to learn to let the rifle drive through.

                I put a Ross Schuler 3 port on my Remington. I love the flush fit and the price is hard to beat. $45! You will need a gun smith to thread your barrel, but thats easy stuff. If your close to Randal, he can do it in a few hours and you walk out with your gun.



                I've since threw some black spray paint on it, just to make it blend in better.

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                • #9
                  HBDano
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                  • Feb 2015
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                  • #10
                    ar15barrels
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                    • Jan 2006
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                    Originally posted by hj_S14
                    damn, I didn't know there's clamp on brakes.
                    They clamp-on AND fly off just as easily.
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                    • #11
                      MongooseV8
                      Veteran Member
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 4426

                      Originally posted by ar15barrels
                      They clamp-on AND fly off just as easily.
                      They never made me feel very fuzzy inside. Always seem like they are going to turn a muzzle brake into a muzzle break.

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                      • #12
                        CandG
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                        • Apr 2014
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                        Originally posted by MongooseV8
                        They never made me feel very fuzzy inside. Always seem like they are going to turn a muzzle brake into a muzzle break.
                        Muzzle missile
                        Settle down, folks. The new "ghost gun" regulations probably don't do what you think they do.


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                        • #13
                          Jimmy's
                          Veteran Member
                          • May 2016
                          • 2600

                          Just my thoughts.
                          Muzzle brakes suck! period.
                          I personally have no need or desire to deafen myself more than I already have. About getting on target fast, really? how fast do you need to be unless you are shooting competition of some type.
                          If and when I buy rifles that have them installed I remove and trash.
                          Just my thoughts yours may differ.
                          Last edited by Jimmy's; 03-28-2017, 6:30 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Hairball
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2013
                            • 799

                            Originally posted by Jimmy's
                            Muzzle brakes suck! period.
                            At some point, if you get into large calibers, they become a necessity.

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                            • #15
                              LynnJr
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Jan 2013
                              • 7958

                              The problem with bipods loaded or unloaded is the pivot point. If the bipod is unloaded during recoil the gun will move backwards causing the muzzle to drop.
                              If the bipod is loaded during recoil it will force the muzzle upwards then allow it to drop as it swings through its natural arc.
                              Bench stocks are flat plus they are parallel and perpendicular so during recoil they move straight back. When you push the gun forward you should see your cross hairs rise onto the targets X as it hits the forend stop on the front rest.
                              When your looking for a muzzlebrake the most efficient brakes have a large surface area for the gas to impinge upon.
                              Rearward facing ports help as well as does a larger diameter brake because the larger the diameter naturally the larger the surface area is.
                              I am not a fan of holes without opposing holes to counteract each other.
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