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  • mike_the_wino
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 2871

    Remington 700 in .308....

    And that's where I can't decide. I think I have come down to the VTR or the Varmint. VTR is 22" barrel while the Varmint model is 26". VTR has some bonus bits like a bipod and picatinny rail for a scoupe.

    Damn. I just perused the website again....now I want the XCR but it's almost twice the price.


    Any thoughts from you guys?
  • #2
    PaperPuncher
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2009
    • 999

    What do you want out of it?

    If limited to those three, I would get theXCR and save having to buy all of those parts separately later.

    If you are new to bolt actions spend less on the rifle, get decent glass, and invest in ammofor practice.

    Hunting? Not the XCR.

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    • #3
      Strykeback
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2012
      • 1574

      Or ditch the Remington and go Savage or Ruger

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      • #4
        Khromo
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2012
        • 742

        I would lean toward a 5R. It looks to be several hundred less than the XCR, and all you need to add is a trigger, which the XCR (and all the other 700's, I believe) needs as well.

        The most accurate 700 I ever bought was a Varmint SF, a stainless .308 with a fluted 26" varmint profile barrel. That gun also needed the new trigger, and absolutely needed a new stock, which brought the price up to right around the 5R neighborhood, but mine is a legitimate 0.5 MOA shooter with handloads. 0.5 MOA on demand, not once a day.

        A buddy had a VTR, and that gun was definitely possessed by some evil spirits. It never shot very well, the bolt tended to lock up to where you needed a tool to cycle it, and it did not always cock reliably. That's a small sample size, but I don't see triangular barrels taking over the world, either.
        Last edited by Khromo; 02-04-2017, 5:08 PM.
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        • #5
          Oceanbob
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jun 2010
          • 12720

          Yeah...5R
          May the Bridges I burn light the way.

          Life Is Not About Waiting For The Storm To Pass - Its About Learning To Dance In The Rain.

          Fewer people are killed with all rifles each year (323 in 2011) than with shotguns (356), hammers and clubs (496), and hands and feet (728).

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          • #6
            ar15barrels
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2006
            • 57175

            Originally posted by mike_the_wino
            And that's where I can't decide. I think I have come down to the VTR or the Varmint. VTR is 22" barrel while the Varmint model is 26". VTR has some bonus bits like a bipod and picatinny rail for a scoupe.

            Damn. I just perused the website again....now I want the XCR but it's almost twice the price.


            Any thoughts from you guys?
            The funky fluting on the VTR's usually hurts the accuracy.
            Of the two you mentioned, get the SPS varmint and then drop it into a better stock.
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            • #7
              mike_the_wino
              Veteran Member
              • Aug 2010
              • 2871

              Dammit! But the triangular barrel! IT'S FARKING KEWL!

              All right, I need a deep breath or two.

              Off to look at the 5R again....

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              • #8
                Oceanbob
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jun 2010
                • 12720

                Any thoughts get on this 5R...?

                May the Bridges I burn light the way.

                Life Is Not About Waiting For The Storm To Pass - Its About Learning To Dance In The Rain.

                Fewer people are killed with all rifles each year (323 in 2011) than with shotguns (356), hammers and clubs (496), and hands and feet (728).

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                • #9
                  mike_the_wino
                  Veteran Member
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 2871

                  Thanks guys. I think the 5R is the way to go and then just tune it up from there.

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                  • #10
                    Oceanbob
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 12720

                    Mike

                    Keep us informed and best to you in your choice.


                    Personally for me, more than one Rifle is the end game my friend.

                    Be well

                    Bob
                    May the Bridges I burn light the way.

                    Life Is Not About Waiting For The Storm To Pass - Its About Learning To Dance In The Rain.

                    Fewer people are killed with all rifles each year (323 in 2011) than with shotguns (356), hammers and clubs (496), and hands and feet (728).

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                    • #11
                      diver160651
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 1764

                      Originally posted by ar15barrels
                      The funky fluting on the VTR's usually hurts the accuracy.
                      Of the two you mentioned, get the SPS varmint and then drop it into a better stock.
                      Honest, good advice...

                      I've seen more VTRs and their shoots, shoot poorly than good (especially as they get warm). The extra for the 5R is way better spent in glass, adjustable stock, trigger, ammo and lessons... of course this other stuff is were the expense is..
                      Last edited by diver160651; 02-06-2017, 8:05 PM.
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                      • #12
                        maidendeth13
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 968

                        Originally posted by Oceanbob
                        Any thoughts get on this 5R...?

                        I just picked one up.

                        Mile High Shooting had the best price I could find (shipped) and had free fed ex 2 day shipping at the time. They shipped it out the next day for me. Of course it then turned out I couldn't make it to pick it up til today but if you want a 5r I'd give them a call as they only had a few left.

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                        • #13
                          mike_the_wino
                          Veteran Member
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 2871

                          Thanks guys! I went SS fluted. Glad I asked or I would have bought that VTR.

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                          • #14
                            LynnJr
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 7958

                            If your the Mike The Wino from Sonoma county go to Circle S Ranch out of Two Rock and the owners son has the XCR.
                            He is there most days and will most likely let you shoot it. His name is Billy.
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                            • #15
                              rumble phish
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 1396

                              Ruger American Predator in .308 ($400), with a Primary Arms 4-14x44 ill. mil dot ($160), SWFA 30mm low rings ($30), Tacfire muzzle brake ($25), Caldwell 6-9" bipod ($30), with the original stock cut and painted with DupliColor "OEM Trunk" paint in Gray and Black splatter effect ($7).

                              $652 in the entire rig. Took it to the 100 yard range in Linden on Sunday (3/5) and it shot under 1 MOA in a fairly heavy crosswind off the bipod. I'm sure I'll get her to 1/2 MOA on a still day on the sled. For reference I was shooting 168 and 178 grain Hornady Match.

                              Not going to get much better for $900+ out of that 5R.





                              NOTE: The shot on the right was not a "flier". It was part of my sighting group, not part of the group pictured.
                              Last edited by rumble phish; 03-07-2017, 4:30 PM.
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