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  • #31
    CSACANNONEER
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Dec 2006
    • 44093

    30610. (a) Any person who, within this state, possesses any .50 BMG
    rifle, except as provided in this chapter, shall be punished by a
    fine of one thousand dollars ($1,000), imprisonment in a county jail
    for a period not to exceed one year, or by both that fine and
    imprisonment.
    (b) Notwithstanding subdivision (a), a first violation of these
    provisions is punishable by a fine not exceeding five hundred dollars
    ($500) if the person was found in possession of no more than two
    firearms in compliance with Section 30905 and the person satisfies
    all of the following conditions:
    (1) The person proves that he or she lawfully possessed the .50
    BMG rifle prior to January 1, 2005.

    (2) The person has not previously been convicted of a violation of
    this article.
    (3) The person was found to be in possession of the .50 BMG rifle
    within one year following the end of the .50 BMG rifle registration
    period established pursuant to Section 30905.
    (c) Firearms seized pursuant to this section from persons who meet
    all of the conditions in paragraphs (1), (2), and (3) of subdivision
    (b) shall be returned unless the court finds in the interest of
    public safety, after notice and hearing, that the .50 BMG rifle
    should be destroyed pursuant to Sections 18000 and 18005. Firearms
    seized from persons who do not meet the conditions set forth in
    paragraphs (1), (2), and (3) of subdivision (b) shall be destroyed
    pursuant to Sections 18000 and 18005.
    Unfortunately, there will be no way to legally argue that you were legally in possession of a 50BMG rifle prior to 1-1-05 if it wasn't registered by 1-1-06. There is no way to make a newly registered AW into a legal 50BMG rifle.
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    • #32
      CSACANNONEER
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Dec 2006
      • 44093

      Originally posted by LynnJr
      You can email the state a letter and they will reply pretty quickly for a government entity.
      My two 50's are both single shot target rifles and are registered as AW and they are listed as 50BMG on the paperwork.
      No, they are registered "50BMG rifles" not "AWs". It would be illegal to have registered an AR lower as a 50BMG rifle and then turn it into an AW. In fact, the M82s which were being sold in 2004 with fixed magazines and ended up getting registered as "50BMG rifles" still can't have the "capacity to accept a detachable magazine" today. The owners of those better reregister them as AWs next year or, they could end up loosing their rifles and facing criminal charges.
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      • #33
        ar15barrels
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2006
        • 57103

        Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
        Unfortunately, there will be no way to legally argue that you were legally in possession of a 50BMG rifle prior to 1-1-05 if it wasn't registered by 1-1-06.
        There is no way to make a newly registered AW into a legal 50BMG rifle.
        A registered AW which fires 50 BMG is NOT ".50 BMG rifle", even if they happen to BE rifles which fire 50BMG.
        At least that's what 30530 says.

        30530. (a) As used in this part, ".50 BMG rifle" means a center
        fire rifle that can fire a .50 BMG cartridge and is not already an
        assault weapon or a machinegun.
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        • #34
          JMP
          Internet Warrior
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Feb 2012
          • 17056

          Can folks register a bolt action as an AW for the 2017 new rule and allow for future 50 BMG barrels?

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          • #35
            Apollo
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2009
            • 868

            Originally posted by JMP
            Can folks register a bolt action as an AW for the 2017 new rule and allow for future 50 BMG barrels?
            In theory one could. Provided you INTENDED to use the action to make a semi-auto rifle from it. At which point you could register the action as an AW, then later build it into a 50BMG if the semi auto didn't work out.

            The way it was explained to me was as such, an AW can have a 50cal element that is added later with no legal issues. So in theory, yes it could work.
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            • #36
              ar15barrels
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2006
              • 57103

              Originally posted by JMP
              Can folks register a bolt action as an AW for the 2017 new rule and allow for future 50 BMG barrels?
              There is no possible way for a manually operated rifle to be an AW.
              Randall Rausch

              AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
              Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
              Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
              Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
              Most work performed while-you-wait.

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              • #37
                ar15barrels
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2006
                • 57103

                Originally posted by Apollo
                In theory one could. Provided you INTENDED to use the action to make a semi-auto rifle from it.
                The action needs to be assembled as a semi-auto centerfire rifle with features before the end of 2016 to be registered in 2017.
                Randall Rausch

                AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                Most work performed while-you-wait.

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