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  • #46
    jrpowell3
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2013
    • 1066

    So, seekins, badger, and tps, are there any other brands I should be looking at?

    And what height rings should I be getting? If I half the objective, that's 22mm, so I've been looking at heights in the .9"-1" range

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    • #47
      JMP
      Internet Warrior
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Feb 2012
      • 17056

      Originally posted by jrpowell3
      What rings do you use?
      I don't use rings, I use mounts like the Nightforce you linked. I personally use Accuracy International mounts or ERA-Tac. The AI mounts are like their magazines. They are no frills, but really good for only about $170.

      See below, for a long range rifle, I have an adjustable inclination one-piece mount. I have it set to 70 MOA, so you can actually see the scope tilt down a bit. For 308, most just use 20 MOA as it generally gets the job done with most rifle and scope setups. Also, with a 308, you don't need much more than 12 mils of elevation from a 100 yard zero.

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      • #48
        LynnJr
        Calguns Addict
        • Jan 2013
        • 7957



        Here is what canted scope rings look like. Marvin Pearson also makes some very nice rings as does Kelbly and Jewel. They also make them with a Davidson dovetail so they are very adjustable.
        If you want to swap scopes out this is one of the easiest set ups made.
        The gun in the picture is a sleeved Remington with the Davidson flat top bases. For a Remington short 700 you would need 1.350 round bases so they fit the contour of the action. The last picture is the Burris signature tactical rings. They are on my 338 SnipeTac which runs 140 grains of powder under a 300 grain bullet. They have live centers in them like Jewel rings and depending on the spacing they go to 40+ MOA. Don't worry about aluminum versus steel you can always add a third ring.
        A set up like this won't win you any major Benchrest matches anymore but it's good enough to make you a high master at Sacramento or a killer varmint rifle.
        Last edited by LynnJr; 12-25-2016, 8:28 AM.
        Lynn Dragoman, Jr.
        Southwest Regional Director
        Unlimited Range Shooters Association (URSA)
        www.unlimitedrange.org
        Not a commercial business.
        URSA - Competition starts at 2000 yards!

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        • #49
          JMP
          Internet Warrior
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Feb 2012
          • 17056

          Originally posted by LynnJr
          A set up like this won't win you any major Benchrest matches anymore but it's good enough to make you a high master at Sacramento or a killer varmint rifle.
          Hmmm...what can a BR shooter do that a Sacramento high master can't?

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          • #50
            jrpowell3
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2013
            • 1066

            Originally posted by JMP
            Hmmm...what can a BR shooter do that a Sacramento high master can't?
            Eventually after I get some practice, I would like to eventually start entering competitions. What's the difference?

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            • #51
              LynnJr
              Calguns Addict
              • Jan 2013
              • 7957

              You can become a HighMaster with a Remington 700 but you aren't going anywhere in Benchrest with a 700 as the game is much more difficult.
              Lynn Dragoman, Jr.
              Southwest Regional Director
              Unlimited Range Shooters Association (URSA)
              www.unlimitedrange.org
              Not a commercial business.
              URSA - Competition starts at 2000 yards!

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              • #52
                jrpowell3
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2013
                • 1066

                I think I might be ok with -only- highmaster


                ...until I'm not, haha

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                • #53
                  Dave626
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 1038

                  Try the AD recon low QD Non extended mount. 20% off at primary arms. 142 shipped.

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                  • #54
                    ch47gunner
                    Member
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 431

                    While I haven't used their rings, I've used a few of their mounts for varmint use & been very pleased with their product.
                    The Ken Farrell mounts come in different degrees of MOA, I've used both the 15 & the 20 on a number of Savage rifles. All these were with Warne Maxima rings.
                    Last edited by ch47gunner; 10-30-2016, 2:30 PM. Reason: adds
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                    • #55
                      jrpowell3
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2013
                      • 1066

                      Is it better for the scope to be as low as possible on the rifle, or is it simply a matter of personal preference? The reason I ask is because I'm used to shooting ARs and obviously the optics on those are pretty high up

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                      • #56
                        ar15barrels
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 57111

                        Originally posted by jrpowell3
                        Is it better for the scope to be as low as possible on the rifle
                        Yes.

                        AR's must have the scope higher up because of the action design with the moving parts (buffer/spring) that come straight out the back of the gun.
                        If the scope were mounted lower on an AR, you would not be able to see through it due to the stock getting in the way of your face while trying to get lower on the stock.
                        Randall Rausch

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                        Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                        Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
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                        • #57
                          jrpowell3
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2013
                          • 1066

                          Originally posted by ar15barrels
                          Yes.

                          AR's must have the scope higher up because of the action design with the moving parts (buffer/spring) that come straight out the back of the gun.
                          If the scope were mounted lower on an AR, you would not be able to see through it due to the stock getting in the way of your face while trying to get lower on the stock.
                          Right, I get that, but why do you want the scope axis close to the bore axis?

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                          • #58
                            ar15barrels
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 57111

                            Originally posted by jrpowell3
                            Right, I get that, but why do you want the scope axis close to the bore axis?
                            To extend your point blank range and reduce your vertical dispersion due to angular misalignment.
                            Randall Rausch

                            AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                            Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                            Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                            Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                            Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                            • #59
                              jrpowell3
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2013
                              • 1066

                              Originally posted by ar15barrels
                              To extend your point blank range and reduce your vertical dispersion due to angular misalignment.
                              Gotcha.

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                              • #60
                                LynnJr
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Jan 2013
                                • 7957

                                In long-range benchrest you don't want the scope real low as all you will see is the heat coming off of the barrel. That why you see strips of Mylar or Carbon fiber on the barrel held in place with Velcro dots
                                Lynn Dragoman, Jr.
                                Southwest Regional Director
                                Unlimited Range Shooters Association (URSA)
                                www.unlimitedrange.org
                                Not a commercial business.
                                URSA - Competition starts at 2000 yards!

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