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  • #16
    Switchbarrel
    Member
    • Jun 2009
    • 483

    Originally posted by Yerman
    You can't get 20moa in rings. If you want to go that route, you will need a one-piece.
    Stiller and D&B Supply (www.scopeusout.com) both sell tapered rings, but they are for Davidson rails. Kelbly might too. Ivey used to sell a 150 MOA ring/base combo, don't know if they still do or not (Different one piece combo on their website now).

    If you want to use the Picatinny base, the Burris Signature Zee & XTR Signature Zee rings will get you there as well. The XTR's list up to 40 MOA offset when placed at the proper spacing.

    -Rick
    Unbiased AR15, Barnard (sold ), BAT, Borden, Browning, Kelbly, Marsh, Nesika Bay, Remington, Ruger, Savage, Ultralight Arms owner. I like 'em all.

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    • #17
      jrpowell3
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2013
      • 1066

      Been doing some research, what do y'all think about this set up:

      Vortex Viper HS-T 4-16x44
      Badger Ordnance 0moa picatinny base
      Vortex Precision QR Extended Cantilever 30mm 20moa mount

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      • #18
        Yerman
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2011
        • 1396

        Originally posted by jrpowell3
        Been doing some research, what do y'all think about this set up:

        Vortex Viper HS-T 4-16x44
        Badger Ordnance 0moa picatinny base
        Vortex Precision QR Extended Cantilever 30mm 20moa mount
        I don't think you will want an extended mount. Those are better suited for ARs.

        See me Remington 700 below...see how the ring on the back is really far back...I'm not 100% sure but an extended mount will likely push your scope too far forward.

        Is there a reason you want a one piece? Are you moving your scope around to different rifles?

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        • #19
          jrpowell3
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2013
          • 1066

          Originally posted by Yerman
          I don't think you will want an extended mount. Those are better suited for ARs.

          See me Remington 700 below...see how the ring on the back is really far back...I'm not 100% sure but an extended mount will likely push your scope too far forward.

          Is there a reason you want a one piece? Are you moving your scope around to different ]
          No reason in particular, but I am currently building an AR10, maybe until I could afford a second scope I could switch back and forth, but that's secondary, but I would appreciate that flexibility.

          Regardless, I figured I would try and stick to rings made by the scope manufacturer. And the only 20MOA mount I could find by vortex wss that extended one.

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          • #20
            ar15barrels
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2006
            • 57122

            Originally posted by jrpowell3
            Gotcha. Thank you for the explanation. Badger ordnance, as referenced by you, has that integral recoil lug.
            As does TPS.
            If you removed the brand names from the rail, you would be hard pressed to tell a badger from a TPS as they are both so nicely made.
            Randall Rausch

            AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
            Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
            Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
            Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
            Most work performed while-you-wait.

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            • #21
              ar15barrels
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2006
              • 57122

              Originally posted by jrpowell3
              Been doing some research, what do y'all think about this set up:

              Vortex Viper HS-T 4-16x44
              Badger Ordnance 0moa picatinny base
              Vortex Precision QR Extended Cantilever 30mm 20moa mount
              That's not a good mount for a bolt gun as it is WAY too tall.
              That mount is for an AR.

              Get a 20moa base and use TPS low rings for that scope.
              Randall Rausch

              AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
              Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
              Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
              Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
              Most work performed while-you-wait.

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              • #22
                ar15barrels
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2006
                • 57122

                Originally posted by jrpowell3
                I am currently building an AR10, maybe until I could afford a second scope I could switch back and forth
                That won't work.
                The AR mount will be horribly high and put the scope unusably forward on the bolt gun.
                Randall Rausch

                AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                • #23
                • #24
                  ar15barrels
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 57122

                  Originally posted by jrpowell3
                  That's a nice setup as long as you are staying with 30mm scopes.
                  Randall Rausch

                  AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                  Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                  Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                  Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                  Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                  • #25
                    jrpowell3
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2013
                    • 1066

                    Originally posted by ar15barrels
                    That's a nice setup as long as you are staying with 30mm scopes.
                    I got the Vortex Viper HS-T 4-16x44 already. It's got a 30mm tube. I guess the question then would be what height? Low, medium, or high?

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                    • #26
                      jrpowell3
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2013
                      • 1066

                      Except I just noticed that one doesn't have a picatinny rail adapter...back to the drawing board.
                      Edit: I suppose I could just get the 20 moa base
                      Last edited by jrpowell3; 10-26-2016, 7:17 PM.

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                      • #27
                        jrpowell3
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2013
                        • 1066

                        So, with that cantilever mount, even if I push the rings as far forward as possible on the scope and then place the mount as far back in the picatinny rail as possible, it'll still be too far forward for proper eye relief?

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                        • #28
                          jrpowell3
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2013
                          • 1066

                          Ok, so with my Vortex Viper HS-T 4-16x44mm scope, what about the following setup

                          Badger Ordnance 20moa Remington Short Action Base
                          For over 30 years, Badger Ordnance has been an innovator in precision mounting systems and military grade weapon enhancements, and we’re just getting started..

                          and
                          2x Vortex Optics Medium Height Tactical 30mm Scope Rings

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                          • #29
                            ar15barrels
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 57122

                            Originally posted by jrpowell3
                            So, with that cantilever mount, even if I push the rings as far forward as possible on the scope and then place the mount as far back in the picatinny rail as possible, it'll still be too far forward for proper eye relief?
                            Regardless of the length issue, the excessive height is a bigger issue.
                            Randall Rausch

                            AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                            Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                            Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                            Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                            Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                            • #30
                              ar15barrels
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jan 2006
                              • 57122

                              Originally posted by jrpowell3
                              Ok, so with my Vortex Viper HS-T 4-16x44mm scope, what about the following setup

                              Badger Ordnance 20moa Remington Short Action Base
                              For over 30 years, Badger Ordnance has been an innovator in precision mounting systems and military grade weapon enhancements, and we’re just getting started..

                              and
                              2x Vortex Optics Medium Height Tactical 30mm Scope Rings
                              http://www.vortexoptics.com/product/...pe-ring-medium
                              That's approaching $200.

                              Get these instead:

                              Randall Rausch

                              AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                              Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                              Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                              Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                              Most work performed while-you-wait.

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