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  • user01394
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    • Jan 2009
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    Beginner, intermediate, and advanced long distance rifle?

    I would like to get a bolt action long distance rifle. Does anyone have a suggestion on a good, easy, budget friendly rifle? What would the next couple of steps up look like? I like the Remington 700 but it isn't cheap.
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      elmontemike
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        LynnJr
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        It is as important to choose the right cartridge as it is to pick the right rifle.
        22,25,270,8mm and larger can be ignored.
        This leaves 6mm 6.5mm 7mm 30 caliber and 338 caliber.
        In those calibers look for the cartridges that Lapua sells brass for then look at the twist rate required to shoot the heavy for caliber bullets before picking the rifle.
        The reason the Remington 700 always gets the nod is great trigger selection great stock selection and rebarreling is easy enough.
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          user01394
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          I like the look of the Remington 783, would me being a total novice notice any difference between that and a 700?

          Is there a dummies guide to understanding different cartridge sizes? From a financial standpoint is one round significantly cheaper than another?

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            bubbapug1
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            If you don't reload 308 is probably cheapest. It's a Good cartridge but you'll need to shoot 175 grain bullets, at least sierras, to get to 1000 yards.

            A good cheap super accurate bolt rifle is a tikka tactical at around $1,200.00. It will shoot less than 0.5 moa out of the box. Put a heavier stock on it and you can go a long way with that gun.

            The best gun to learn 1000 yard shooting is an accurate 22lr bolt action shot in the wind at 100 or 200 yards. A lot cheaper and faster way to learn what you need to know about long range. Wind reading.
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              ar15barrels
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              • Jan 2006
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              Originally posted by user01394
              I would like to get a bolt action long distance rifle.
              Does anyone have a suggestion on a good, easy, budget friendly rifle?
              What would the next couple of steps up look like?
              I like the Remington 700 but it isn't cheap.
              Define a budget first.
              What do YOU consider to be "long distance"?
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                4Patriot
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                • Nov 2013
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                Originally posted by user01394
                I like the look of the Remington 783, would me being a total novice notice any difference between that and a 700?

                Is there a dummies guide to understanding different cartridge sizes? From a financial standpoint is one round significantly cheaper than another?
                There is a shooter on Youtube that built himself a long range rifle for competition on the cheap. One of his videos discusses caliber choice. Check out "The Social Regressive" on youtube.

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                  user01394
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                  • Jan 2009
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                  I'm not sure what I consider long distance honestly, something that would require a scope and talent, is that 500-1000 yards?

                  I won't be reloading, can a 22lr go 1000 yards? What would be a good long distance 22 rifle?

                  Ill check out the YouTube video, thanks.

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                    TMB 1
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                    Originally posted by user01394
                    I like the look of the Remington 783, would me being a total novice notice any difference between that and a 700?

                    Is there a dummies guide to understanding different cartridge sizes? From a financial standpoint is one round significantly cheaper than another?
                    I like the 783, I have one in 308 I put in a Boyds classic stock. It would be a good start for a novice, but 243 might be better if you're not used to recoil, plus it's a flatter shooting round. You should also get into reloading.
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                      ExtremeX
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                      .22 LR is not going to get you to those distances OP. That said, they make a fine trainer if you want to shoot 50-200 yards and keep costs down. Throw in a little wind and you have a party.

                      I like the Remington 700 series of rifle... I started using it as a beginner and built it up as I progressed.

                      Generally speaking for 500-1000 yards you really want something like a 243, 260... 6mm/6.5mm bullet. That said, plenty to learn with a 223 or 308 even though they are generally not as strong at the 800-1000 yard distances.

                      Don't turn the scope into an after though... I feel picking the right scope is more important than some of the other decisions you might end up making going down this road. Perhaps even consider buying or making a decision on the scope before the rifle and round.

                      At the bare minimum you should get something that is setup towards target orientated shooting. You want a reticle that is scaled in MIL or MOA, along with turrets that match in the same unit of measurement. If you need to watch the pennies you dont have to go crazy high end, but they are high quality options available like some of the SWFA classic scopes.
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                        LynnJr
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                        • Jan 2013
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                        Originally posted by user01394
                        I like the look of the Remington 783, would me being a total novice notice any difference between that and a 700?

                        Is there a dummies guide to understanding different cartridge sizes? From a financial standpoint is one round significantly cheaper than another?

                        If your a total novice the 783 in 308 is probably your best bet.
                        Cheap to shoot will go to 800 without needing reloads and good availability.
                        In general on cartridge selection if you look at the brass that Lapua sells those are usually the chamberings you will see winning 90℅ of all matches.
                        I watched the you tube videos described earlier and mostly agree with his point of view.
                        Some of the cartridges you hear about all the time that didn't make his list where left out for very specific reasons so you have to listen carefully to why he left them out.
                        Lynn Dragoman, Jr.
                        Southwest Regional Director
                        Unlimited Range Shooters Association (URSA)
                        www.unlimitedrange.org
                        Not a commercial business.
                        URSA - Competition starts at 2000 yards!

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                          ar15barrels
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                          • Jan 2006
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                          Originally posted by user01394
                          I'm not sure what I consider long distance honestly, something that would require a scope and talent, is that 500-1000 yards?
                          People shoot 1000yds with iron sights.
                          You just need a big enough target to be able to see it.

                          What size targets do you want to be able to reliably hit and at what distances?
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