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Six more days until my Winchester 1873 (.38/.357) is in my hands. Can someone recommend lead free ammo in .357? I think I would like to hunt hogs with it this fall.
Thanks in advance.
Thanks in advance.
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Isn't that kind of a lite weight cartridge for hogs? I might try a 44mag, but 357?
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The Underwood penetrator rounds are copper solids. don't know if they need to be on some kind of approved list but that's what I got for ya off the top of my head.Buying a safe and sane firework is like paying a hooker for a hug. I do not see the appeal in it.Comment
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I am also in the camp of .357 being a bit light for pigs.
Underwood penetrator's don't expand and, therefore, aren't CA legal to hunt with.
Look at Buffalo Bore. They are loaded with Barnes bullets which are CA approved.sigpicComment
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The first reviewer use this in handgun to hunt pigs.
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I honestly don't know. I was reading this thread and it got me thinking...
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My choice would be a 45/70!Comment
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Ditto for Buffalo Bore.
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Longer barrels will kick up the speed on a .357, .44 etc. The problem is that not all of the bullets themselves are designed to perform or handle those kinds of velocities. A hollow point bullet from a handgun, for example, typically has enough time to properly expand on a soft target. Crank up the velocity too high an a similar bullet might not expand or just disintegrate all together.sigpicComment
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According to the handbook:
"CCR T14-353. Methods Authorized for Taking
Big Game.
(a) It shall be unlawful to take or attempt to take
big game in violation of this section or Section
250.1. The take or attempted take of any big game
(as defined by Section 350 of these regulations)
with a firearm shall be in accordance with the use
of nonlead projectiles and ammunition pursuant
to Section 250.1 of these regulations.
(b) Definition. For purposes of this section, a
projectile is any bullet, ball, sabot, slug, buckshot
or other device which is expelled from a firearm
through a barrel by force. The following definitions
shall apply:
(1) A softnose or expanding projectile is a bullet
designed to increase from its original diameter,
commonly referred to as “mushrooming”, and
retain a significant part of its original weight upon
impact with, or when passing through the tissues
of an animal.
(2) Projectiles commonly referred to as “frangible”
bullets, designed to disintegrate upon impact with,
or when passing through the tissues of an animal
are not softnose or expanding projectiles.
(c) Except for the provisions of the following
subsections (d) through (j), big game may only
be taken by rifles using centerfire cartridges
with softnose or expanding projectiles..."Last edited by Thanatos2203; 09-01-2016, 12:10 PM.sigpicComment
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Last edited by Kokopelli; 09-01-2016, 12:34 PM.If we lose freedom here, there is no place to escape to. This is the last stand on earth. - Ronald ReaganComment
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The summary is:
The bullet must be an expanding bullet.
If you are on a state wildlife area or ecological reserve it must be a non-lead expanding bullet.
If you are in the condor area it must be a non-lead expanding bullet that is on the approved list.
It is my unpracticed opinion that .357, especially in a rifle, loaded with expanding non-lead bullets is likely a poor choice for pig hunting. I would be worried that the bullet would impact at velocities greater than it is designed for, expanding very rapidly and slowing down very quickly thereby limiting penetration. That being said, I don't think that would be an issue for small/young pigs.
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(b) Definition. For purposes of this section, a projectile is any bullet, ball, sabot, slug, buckshot or other device which is expelled from a firearm through a barrel by force. The following definitions shall apply:
(1) A softnose or expanding projectile is a bullet designed to increase from its original diameter, commonly referred to as "mushrooming", and retain a significant part of its original weight upon impact with, or when passing through the tissues of an animal.
(2) Projectiles commonly referred to as "frangible" bullets, designed to disintegrate upon impact with, or when passing through the tissues of an animal are not softnose or expanding projectiles.
(c) Except for the provisions of the following subsections (d) through (j), big game may only be taken by rifles using centerfire cartridges with softnose or expanding projectiles; bow and arrow (see Section 354 of these regulations for archery equipment regulations); or wheellock, matchlock, flintlock or percussion type, including "in-line" muzzleloading rifles using black powder or equivalent black powder substitute, including pellets, with a single projectile loaded from the muzzle and at least .40 caliber in designation
(d) Shotguns capable of holding not more than three shells firing single slugs may be used for the taking of deer, bear and wild pigs. In areas where the discharge of rifles or shotguns with slugs is prohibited by county ordinance, shotguns capable of holding not more than three shells firing size 0 or 00 buckshot may be used for the taking of deer only.
(e) Pistols and revolvers using centerfire cartridges with softnose or expanding projectiles may be used to take deer, bear, and wild pigs.
(f) Pistols and revolvers with minimum barrel lengths of 4 inches, using centerfire cartridges with softnose or expanding projectiles may be used to take elk and bighorn sheep.Calguns.net, where everyone responding to your post is a Navy Force Delta Recon 6 Sniperator.Comment
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