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  • ifilef
    Banned
    • Apr 2008
    • 5665

    Savage Axis II - confusing little distraction

    I picked up one of these in .223 a couple of months ago. Like it a lot, except when set on safe it does not entirely cover the red dot, causing a confusing situation. For this reason, sometimes I have thought it was on FIRE when it was actually on SAFE.

    I noticed this shortly after bringing it home. When it is on FIRE the red dot is completely visible. When it is on SAFE the red is partly visible and noticeable. I shoot left-handed if that bears any relevance to angle of view of it.

    Safety works as it should otherwise.

    Anyone else have this little issue?

    It does annoy me to a certain extent enough to post about it.

    Suggestions? Any DIY remedies in lieu of bringing to a gunsmith or having to send (stock?) back to Savage?
    Last edited by ifilef; 08-29-2016, 7:35 PM.
  • #2
    ar15barrels
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2006
    • 57134

    Originally posted by ifilef
    Any DIY remedies in lieu of bringing to a gunsmith or having to send (stock?) back to Savage?
    Put the safety on an and then use black paint to cover the offending part of the red dot.
    Randall Rausch

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    • #3
      ifilef
      Banned
      • Apr 2008
      • 5665

      Why did I not think of that?

      Only concern would be that the remaining part of the red dot may not be sufficiently visible to alert me that the firearm is on FIRE. I may temporarily use some electrician's tape over it and move it to FIRE to find out.

      I first need to carry the firearm from parked car to condo to take before and after photos. Usually don't carry it in its case until later in the evening because, well, you know...all the neighbors. I regret that I don't live in some 'free' state like Arizona when it comes to that act. Sick of feeling like I'm some kind of 'criminal' who must do certain things in the dead of night.

      Thanks!
      Last edited by ifilef; 08-29-2016, 8:29 PM.

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      • #4
        symbology
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2015
        • 547

        Savage Axis II - confusing little distraction

        Does the Axis have the "center" safe position that allows to you to use the bolt while still on safe?

        If I recall the position of the safety only partially exposes the red dot when in this position.



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        • #5
          LynnJr
          Calguns Addict
          • Jan 2013
          • 7958

          If it's just the standard red plastic circle they cost $2 from Savage.
          Buy one from the Savage Store and clip away the section that sticks out. Kinda like a partial moon.
          Lynn Dragoman, Jr.
          Southwest Regional Director
          Unlimited Range Shooters Association (URSA)
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          URSA - Competition starts at 2000 yards!

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          • #6
            glockman19
            Banned
            • Jun 2007
            • 10486

            Nail Polish. Cover the red dot with black nail polish and make a dot with red nail polish where you want it.

            I have a Savage Axis II in .223 and don't have the issue you have

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            • #7
              ifilef
              Banned
              • Apr 2008
              • 5665

              Originally posted by symbology
              Does the Axis have the "center" safe position that allows to you to use the bolt while still on safe?

              If I recall the position of the safety only partially exposes the red dot when in this position.



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              It is a tang safety and I am only aware of SAFE and FIRE positions. There is no 'center' position. And the safety as I stated partially substantially exposes the red dot in the SAFE position and I don't like that.

              Yes, you can use the bolt and move it to chamber a round while the safety is engaged. But not right after a shot; one must lift the bolt handle up to cock it before engaging it to SAFE.
              Last edited by ifilef; 08-29-2016, 11:13 PM.

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              • #8
                ifilef
                Banned
                • Apr 2008
                • 5665

                Do you see why this is irritating and distracting? Nearly the entire red circle is exposed while in SAFE position. But it operates fine.

                On SAFE followed by FIRE position:



                Last edited by ifilef; 08-29-2016, 11:18 PM.

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                • #9
                  LynnJr
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 7958

                  Mine had a 1/8 inch of slop in either direction.
                  The nail polish suggestion makes sense as you can relocate the red dot anywhere you want it.
                  Lynn Dragoman, Jr.
                  Southwest Regional Director
                  Unlimited Range Shooters Association (URSA)
                  www.unlimitedrange.org
                  Not a commercial business.
                  URSA - Competition starts at 2000 yards!

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                  • #10
                    ifilef
                    Banned
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 5665

                    Originally posted by LynnJr
                    Mine had a 1/8 inch of slop in either direction.
                    The nail polish suggestion makes sense as you can relocate the red dot anywhere you want it.
                    Sorry, do not understand.

                    In the meantime, will contact Savage about it.

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                    • #11
                      TMB 1
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Dec 2012
                      • 7153

                      If the red bothers you just put some black paint over it. Then look at it like learning to drive a manual transmission vehicle without looking at the shift pattern marked on the shift handle.
                      Just remember forward is fire rear is safe. My Savage 110, Ruger M77s and some double barrels all have same type safety none have a red dot.
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                      • #12
                        ifilef
                        Banned
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 5665

                        TMB 1- Why should I need to do that and make it less safe?

                        I've contacted them. They want me to send the whole rifle back to them. I will contact them further to find out how this will be accomplished and what their requirements cost-wise will be to me, as well as turnaround. I think they will take care of it without my incurring any expense.

                        Firearm is defectively manufactured or at least mine is defectively assembled. There is no evidence it had been fired or inspected. An inspection by a competent person should have revealed this defect.
                        Last edited by ifilef; 08-30-2016, 4:25 PM.

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                        • #13
                          ar15barrels
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 57134

                          Originally posted by ifilef
                          Firearm is defectively manufactured or at least mine is defectively assembled.
                          This is not acceptable.
                          I gaurantee that firearm meets savage's quality requirements.
                          If savage's quality requirements do not meet YOUR quality requirements, you may need to move up to a better quality manufacturer.
                          Randall Rausch

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                          • #14
                            TMB 1
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Dec 2012
                            • 7153

                            Originally posted by ifilef
                            TMB 1- Why should I need to do that and make it less safe?
                            How does that make it less safe?
                            You said.
                            Originally posted by ifilef
                            Safety works as it should otherwise.
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                            • #15
                              ifilef
                              Banned
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 5665

                              But they agree with me that this one does not meet their quality standards.

                              If there's a tang safety on any firearm it's my view that when on SAFE it should completely cover the red dot. And it's the standard of the industry that it should completely cover the red dot. I would imagine that even Mossberg's tang safetied shotguns cover the red dot. I know the Remington 870 trigger guard safety covers red portion completely.

                              One should not have to purchase an expensive rifle to get a basic safety feature that conforms to industry standards. Even the manual states on page 4 it is on Full Safe when red dot is covered.

                              Stop trying to pick fights with me because we disagree on other matters not related to this issue.
                              Last edited by ifilef; 08-30-2016, 4:43 PM.

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