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  • #16
    Mr.Caketown
    Calguns Addict
    • Jan 2011
    • 7362

    I dont think they hold the value well unless its in limited supply. The Rem 5R goes for about 1200ish new and I couldnt even sell mine for $850 near new. Unless its a great deal or someone really wants that particular model I dont think they resell well.
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    • #17
      roostersgt
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2012
      • 1921

      Originally posted by LynnJr
      I'm with KenDog on this one. Figure 10 years of regular use and while it won't appreciate it won't depreciate either.

      On a custom build the problem is things change and nobody wants a 15 year old action in competition nor a 15 year old stock.

      That said if you hang on long enough they all go up in price with time.

      The Remington 788 was the bottom of the barrel in its day selling for $75 new and now they are $400+.

      The older customs like Shilen DGA or Wichita actions that were all that years ago cost more now but haven't really appreciated. The guys are now using them for varmint guns.
      Really kind of interested in this. Do you think the old M70 action builds, or those built upon Springfield 1903 actions are somewhat "not desirable" now? Having been exposed to many of the older actions used in custom builds, I find them to be far preferable to most production stuff made now. What kind of competition are you referring to? A lot of former military actions, from many old/failed nations, are often used in wildcat custom guild gun builds.

      Check American Custom Gunmakers Guild, and I'm fairly certain you'll find very few extremely high value custom guns being built upon modern actions. IDKFS, but I've seen quite a few up close, and know several of their members who have recognized and "published" guns in the Guild using old actions.

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      • #18
        arnie19
        Member
        • Dec 2011
        • 367

        A fine European rifle like a Sauer will appreciate .

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        • #19
          Air
          Senior Member
          • May 2005
          • 1640

          Mossberg? No?

          Appreciate?

          A newly Manufactured FN Winchester M70, yup. Browning, yup. Kimber bolt rifle, perhaps yes. Sako, yup. CZ, more than likely.

          A fine bolt rifle is sort of like buying an O/U shotgun. Buy once, cry once.

          Do yourself a favor, and buy something nice for yourself. You will never regret it, and you can hand it down to your children.

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          • #20
            Jimmy's
            Veteran Member
            • May 2016
            • 2600

            Buy something Classic.

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            • #21
              javithewrench
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 1382

              Mossberg lol and ar's do not hold their value. As far as pistols it's a supply/demand thing especially in California. A glock 43 for $900, I don't think so. Only in California, lol

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              • #22
                MongooseV8
                Veteran Member
                • Apr 2010
                • 4426

                Originally posted by ar15barrels
                If you buy it used for a good price, it will hold it's value.
                If you buy it new, it will be worth the same as most other used ones later, which is to say less than a new one.
                Was going to say the same exact thing.

                But since you can only have 10 round mags soon, you might as well pick up a used 700, Savage, or Tikka.

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                • #23
                  ElvenSoul
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                  • Apr 2008
                  • 17431

                  Go get a Jungle #5
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                  • #24
                    LynnJr
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 7958

                    Originally posted by roostersgt
                    Really kind of interested in this. Do you think the old M70 action builds, or those built upon Springfield 1903 actions are somewhat "not desirable" now? Having been exposed to many of the older actions used in custom builds, I find them to be far preferable to most production stuff made now. What kind of competition are you referring to? A lot of former military actions, from many old/failed nations, are often used in wildcat custom guild gun builds.

                    Check American Custom Gunmakers Guild, and I'm fairly certain you'll find very few extremely high value custom guns being built upon modern actions. IDKFS, but I've seen quite a few up close, and know several of their members who have recognized and "published" guns in the Guild using old actions.
                    Roostergt
                    When I say custom i am referring to the action.
                    A model 70 action has little value unless it is a specialty firearm with a low build number.
                    A field grade 270 or 30-06 has no real value when compared to a deluxe or safari grade in a unique chambering.
                    On the guild guns those are labor of love rifles. You take a $300 action add a $650 barrel then spend $6000 on some wood and another $6000 on engraving and customization.
                    When your all said and done you have a nice shooting $2000-$3000 rifle that cost you $14000 and 5 years of your time.
                    If you want to collect guns go with shotguns like Parkers Lefevers,Lujtics,Perazzi,Ithacas,Winchesters and most stuff over 60 years old.
                    Some sold for $200 new and are now worth $7500 or more.
                    Last edited by LynnJr; 08-29-2016, 10:11 PM.
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                    • #25
                      Jimmy's
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                      • May 2016
                      • 2600

                      1st and 2nd generation SAA Colt revolvers are collectors.

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                      • #26
                        stand125
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 1451

                        It all depends really on the current market at the time of purchase. I got my MVP Varmit on sale a few years back for $420 out the door. I could probably sell it for a little more in the current market.
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                        • #27
                          2fast4u
                          Member
                          • Apr 2005
                          • 416

                          Not saying for it to go up LoL but I know if I buy a Glock today for $600 and keep it nice in 8-10 years it will still sell for $400-$450👍

                          Here is a look at the rifle MVP LC

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                          • #28
                            MarikinaMan
                            Veteran Member
                            • Nov 2015
                            • 4864

                            Originally posted by patriot_man
                            I think high dollar custom builds will hold their value.

                            Run of the mill Rem 700, etc? nah
                            Unless its collectible, high dollar and and value retention almost never go together. The exception would be those that are in scarce supply.

                            If I purchased something for 600 and used it for a couple of years, and sold it for 450, i would say it kepts its value well.

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                            • #29
                              calshipbuilder
                              Member
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 408

                              Looking on the 'Hide, there has been a trend downward on custom bolt guns as of late. I think the RPR and others of its ilk are taking the market away as those who would have saved up the 3K to get a nice quality used custom are no longer there. A surgeon / manners / bartlein setup went for just over ~2300 (albeit a fire sale). That's about a grand less than what it would have gone for last year.

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                              • #30
                                bbguns44
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 1182

                                I'm fairly certain my Ruger 77/22 bolt gun will sell for more than I paid for and I bought it new at msrp.

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