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  • ifilef
    Banned
    • Apr 2008
    • 5665

    Trigger pull on Rem 783

    Hello-

    Just purchased Rem 783 in .308.

    Intend to presently use it solely for target shooting. Limited to 100 yards but intend to go out to Pala and shoot there at further distances.

    The 783 has the adjustable 'Crossfire' trigger.

    The factory stock has a molded swivel stud that will not accept a bipod, so firearm will be shot from a bench with sand bags or in a rest of some kind.

    Is there a general rule of thumb or customary trigger pull weight that is considered best for accuracy?

    I've already adjusted the pull to a certain weight that is quite low and just wondering if it may be too low (or high) for purposes of accurate shot groups, or not.
    Last edited by ifilef; 08-19-2016, 12:23 PM.
  • #2
    ChuckDizzle
    Banned
    • Dec 2013
    • 4398

    Generally lighter, shorter, crisper means more accuracy, but most people will experience diminished returns eventually. A good trigger can vary from person to person.

    3lbs seems to be a sweet spot for most.

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    • #3
      FourT6and2
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2012
      • 1928

      I've got my trigger set to 1.5 lbs. But it's all personal preference really. At first 1.5 seemed really light. But now it's quite normal. In fact, I could see myself going down to 1 lb.

      For your rig, though, you probably won't see any significant gains. You'd be well off shooting prone, from a pack. just put the rifle on a backpack or sand bag. No need for a rest.

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      • #4
        SMarquez
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2011
        • 2216

        As long as it passes the bump test you can go as light as you are comfy with. For range only shooting go as low as you feel safe with. For hunting and jostling around I like 3.5-4 lbs. Mine was 3.5 out of the box. I give mine a pretty good bump with a rubber mallet and a good smack on the ground. I was able to get a cheapie Caldwell bipod on mine.

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        • #5
          ifilef
          Banned
          • Apr 2008
          • 5665

          Originally posted by FourT6and2
          I've got my trigger set to 1.5 lbs. But it's all personal preference really. At first 1.5 seemed really light. But now it's quite normal. In fact, I could see myself going down to 1 lb.

          For your rig, though, you probably won't see any significant gains. You'd be well off shooting prone, from a pack. just put the rifle on a backpack or sand bag. No need for a rest.
          Originally posted by SMarquez
          As long as it passes the bump test you can go as light as you are comfy with. For range only shooting go as low as you feel safe with. For hunting and jostling around I like 3.5-4 lbs. Mine was 3.5 out of the box. I give mine a pretty good bump with a rubber mallet and a good smack on the ground. I was able to get a cheapie Caldwell bipod on mine.
          FourT- Well, I've got mine down to 1 lb. 11 oz. It does seem light, but I do understand the comment that yours now seems 'normal' to you.

          However, I'm now thinking of increasing it to 2.5 lbs. because that's the minimum trigger pull I can get out of the Accutrigger in my Savage Axis II in .223- and thinking that consistency between those two triggers might be better overall. Thoughts? Comments? Your 'thoughts' is too 'femme' a question. Sorry about that...

          SMarquez- The trigger on the 783 contains a 'trigger release' in front of it that if not depressed first the trigger will not be activated. I don't understand nor have I ever done a 'bump' test. Assuming the safety is 'OFF' with this particular trigger wouldn't it be all but impossible for gun to discharge because it's similar in a sense to a Glock trigger but even more so to Savage's Accutrigger?

          In any event, I will perform the trigger tests and use a punch on the sear as recommended in the detailed manual instructions and may try the bump test you have described.

          Which Caldwell bipod? It's really difficult to find ANY bipod that works on the 783 molded swivel stud. I called Remington and they said none were compatible- need to get a different stock. I've already had to return a nice decently priced UTG bipod to Amazon for that reason.
          Last edited by ifilef; 08-19-2016, 4:36 PM.

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          • #6
            Horrendo Revolver
            Senior Member
            • May 2015
            • 1013

            I sell firearms at Cabela's and have seen numerous instances where people mounted bipods on rifles with molded in plastic swivel studs. They broke the stud so then even a sling couldn't be mounted.

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            • #7
              ifilef
              Banned
              • Apr 2008
              • 5665

              Originally posted by Horrendo Revolver
              I sell firearms at Cabela's and have seen numerous instances where people mounted bipods on rifles with molded in plastic swivel studs. They broke the stud so then even a sling couldn't be mounted.
              Good to know! Thanks for your post.

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              • #8
                SMarquez
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2011
                • 2216

                Originally posted by ifilef
                FourT- Well, I've got mine down to 1 lb. 11 oz. It does seem light, but I do understand the comment that yours now seems 'normal' to you.

                However, I'm now thinking of increasing it to 2.5 lbs. because that's the minimum trigger pull I can get out of the Accutrigger in my Savage Axis II in .223- and thinking that consistency between those two triggers might be better overall. Thoughts? Comments? Your 'thoughts' is too 'femme' a question. Sorry about that...

                SMarquez- The trigger on the 783 contains a 'trigger release' in front of it that if not depressed first the trigger will not be activated. I don't understand nor have I ever done a 'bump' test. Assuming the safety is 'OFF' with this particular trigger wouldn't it be all but impossible for gun to discharge because it's similar in a sense to a Glock trigger but even more so to Savage's Accutrigger?

                In any event, I will perform the trigger tests and use a punch on the sear as recommended in the detailed manual instructions and may try the bump test you have described.

                Which Caldwell bipod? It's really difficult to find ANY bipod that works on the 783 molded swivel stud. I called Remington and they said none were compatible- need to get a different stock. I've already had to return a nice decently priced UTG bipod to Amazon for that reason.
                When a trigger is adjusted the gun should be bumped to simulate accidentally dropping or simulating a jolt that would disturb the sear. I have done this with Timneys, older Remingtons and Winchester. They are all different. I have not messed with the trigger on the 783 so I am not real familiar with it.
                Here are some pics. I will tell you it is not a great bipod, it works loose so you got to stay on it.
                mounted

                Part Number?

                When or if mjne breaks I'll go with one of these. Randall at AR15barrels.com approves.
                Last edited by SMarquez; 08-19-2016, 7:31 PM.

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                • #9
                  ifilef
                  Banned
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 5665

                  SMarquez- Thanks for the photos and your post, above.

                  Unfortunately, without more, I can not locate the bipod by punching in the 071012 number. It is apparently not a model number.

                  If you might have the model name and center height extended it might be of help.

                  Horrendo- I would assume that even if I were to locate the particular Caldwell you would advise against using it on the Rem 783. Well, I certainly don't want to purchase a Boyd stock later on, so, SMarquez, don't go out of your way to provide the info to me.

                  Perhaps someone might recommend a compatible sling for the 783 that would attach directly to the swivel stud without need for eyelets or swivels, whatchamacallits.
                  Last edited by ifilef; 08-19-2016, 11:09 PM.

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                  • #10
                    ifilef
                    Banned
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 5665

                    For those interested in a new 783, Remington is currently offering a mail-in rebate of $40 on it.

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                    • #11
                      LynnJr
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 7958

                      Most 100 yard guns shot off of a bench are using very light trigger pull weights so the gun doesn't move when your pulling the trigger.
                      Jewell Kelbly Bix&Andy Flavio Fare triggers are what you will see on the line.
                      In the case of the 783 set it as light as it is reliable as has already been posted.
                      If you need lighter than that look up the 4 brands listed.
                      Lynn Dragoman, Jr.
                      Southwest Regional Director
                      Unlimited Range Shooters Association (URSA)
                      www.unlimitedrange.org
                      Not a commercial business.
                      URSA - Competition starts at 2000 yards!

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                      • #12
                        Flouncer
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2010
                        • 1309

                        Bipods.

                        Caldwell is made in China, Harris is Made in USA. Vote with your pocketbook or your consciences. Then reap the harvest when your turn comes around.
                        A Nation of Sheep Will Beget a Government of Wolves

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                        • #13
                          TMB 1
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 7153

                          Originally posted by Flouncer
                          Caldwell is made in China, Harris is Made in USA. Vote with your pocketbook or your consciences. Then reap the harvest when your turn comes around.

                          Does that mean put Caldwell on foreign made rifles like Howa, Tikka etc... and put Harris on USA made rifles like Remington, Savage etc...?
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