what to look for in 100-200M rifle ?

[ar15barrels]

The 222 is a cool little cartridge but for resale the 223 is much more practical.

I don't build my guns to sell.
I build them how I WANT them.

222 ruled benchrest before the 6mm's.
It would fit the OP's requirements quite nicely.

[russ69]

222 ruled benchrest before the 6mm's.

Yes that is true but a faster twist 223 can do way more. Remember they blew the shoulder forward on the 222 to get more powder in the case...because it needed more powder. P.S. I love the 222, I even had a Remington 40X made in that caliber. It got rebarreled in 223.

[LynnJr]

Randall
Why 222 on the model 7?
I thought the model 7 was available with the larger boltfaces?

[ar15barrels]

Randall
Why 222 on the model 7?
I thought the model 7 was available with the larger boltfaces?

Because there are Model 7 actions with 0.380" diameter boltfaces for $325 right now.

[LynnJr]

You can get a 700 short action with a trigger for $65 more and build a 6 BR with good brass.

[ar15barrels]

You can get a 700 short action with a trigger for $65 more and build a 6 BR with good brass.

A 700 is longer and heavier than necessary for a nice 222.
The nice short bolt throw of a 600/7 is special.

[bellwilliam]

Because there are Model 7 actions with 0.380" diameter boltfaces for $325 right now.

link ?

[bellwilliam]

222, 22 PPC, 6 PPC and 6BR all sounds good.....need to do more research..

which is cheapest and easiest to reload for ?

[milotrain]

http://pacifictoolandgauge.com/552-remington-model-7-actions

Regular import complications exist obviously.

222, 22 PPC, 6 PPC and 6BR all sounds good.....need to do more research..
which is cheapest and easiest to reload for ?

No question, 222.

222 uses the least powder capacity.
224 caliber bullets are cheaper than 6mm bullets.
222 brass is cheaper.
222 case heads are the same as 223, and therefore the action can just have a 223 bolt with a 222 chambered barrel on it.
Until you get very serious just shoot the Hornady 53gr Vmax bullet.

6BR will take no load development, it's all been done before.

22PPC brass is only currently made by norma, it's fireformed from something else otherwise.

PPC case heads are a specific (non standard) size, BR case heads are 308. You can run a BR with a 308 bolt and a BR chambered barrel.

[TMB 1]

No question, 222.

222 uses the least powder capacity.
224 caliber bullets are cheaper than 6mm bullets.
222 brass is cheaper.
222 case heads are the same as 223, and therefore the action can just have a 223 bolt with a 222 chambered barrel on it.
Until you get very serious just shoot the Hornady 53gr Vmax bullet.

[milotrain]

On a whim I looked at the Shilen pre-chambered offerings. Randell will correct me but I think the Remington 7 uses the same barrel tenon dimensions as a 700. What was exciting is that Shilen has a lot of neck options when it comes to the 222 specifically. So you buy Lapua brass, which should give you about a .247"-248" loaded neck diameter. You get a Shilen SS select match barrel with a 222 Rem. (.250" neck) chamber. Then you order a Forster 222 FL sizing die with the neck honed to .246"


Buy a minimum thickness PTG recoil lug for the 700. Screw the barrel onto the action until you get the headspace you want, and measure the gap for the lug with the minimum thickness recoil lug and feeler gauges. Buy a new PTG recoil lug that is the correct thickness.

[MongooseV8]

Or you could buy a Remage barrel from Criterion or McGowen if you wanted to install yourself.

[JMP]

Buy a minimum thickness PTG recoil lug for the 700. Screw the barrel onto the action until you get the headspace you want, and measure the gap for the lug with the minimum thickness recoil lug and feeler gauges. Buy a new PTG recoil lug that is the correct thickness.

The downside is that the process of purchasing two recoil lugs from PTG is that it could take nearly a year to wait.

[LynnJr]

I don't see purchasing two recoil lugs as a viable option. They are usually available in pre-determined sizes not +- 0.001 increments.
You can buy a Remington 700 short action with a trigger for $385 from the same place and put a 6BR barrel on it.
The gun will shoot 3/10 at a 100 yards with factory ammo and work well all the way to 1000 yards.
Lapua 6BR brass CCI 450 Magnum primer 30-31.5 grains of Varget powder depending on the freebore and a Berger or Sierra 95-108 grain bullet gives you 2 inch groups at 600 yards.
If you get less than 0.090 on the freebore and shoot 65-70 grain bullets the accuracy up close improves but you sacrifice some longer range.
Stocks and other options are unlimited and if you decide down the road you want a hotrod you can always run a 243 or 6mm Remington Ackley reamer in the barrel.
If you decide you like longer distances you can run a 6-284 reamer in the barrel and shoot at 3400 fps with a heavy bullet.
AND you can always change the barrel and make it just about anything else including a Magnum.
Hard to beat a Remington 700 for versatility.

[milotrain]

I don't know anything about HSM but for $2 a round with bergers that's pretty good looking.

Lapua makes a 222 55gr FMJ load for around $1.50 a round.

The recoil lug swap maneuver was more of a thought experiment. I know guys who have done it with take off barrels and eliseo recoil lugs but I get that PTG has long lead times. Should be able to find a gunsmith willing to make you a recoil lug at a specific dimension, but of course it's easier to just get a gunsmith to chamber the barrel for you.