Rem 700 CDL - I'm a dumb arse

[desert dog]

That .270 is a small enough caliber in a heavy enough gun for a child to comfortably shoot. This is a fact. You purchased a hunting rifle in a great, flat-shooting, low-recoil caliber.

Like stated, there are 2 predicaments at play here:

1) You lack proper shooting technique and equipment for comfortably shooting off the bench. You will always feel more recoil off the bench vs field positions.

2) Because you are new to shooting, you have no perception or reference of what normal recoil is, so lack the instinct to just deal with recoil as a part of shooting. Experienced shooters are too busy concentrating on the target to worry about recoil during a shot. If it isn't physically painful to shoot, then it really isn't recoiling that much. If your 270 is painful to shoot, then it is 100% your technique.

Don't put a muzzle brake on a hunting rifle, especially that 270. Use the bench to get your equipment dialed in and to verify zero; after that, practice just like you would if you were hunting.

[diver160651]

I read "As I may have stated, it is for fun time at the range only."

So "just like he would when hunting" etc… might not be in play..

Besides, I see WAY TO MANY "hunters" shooting like crap… it is an eye opener seeing some of the "hunters" missing the backboard or peppering the target… with no idea of fundamentals or ballistics.

This is not a slam to ALL hunters, I hunt, my son has sense he was 9…

I want to hand it to the OP for being open enough to seek help.. But this might not be the best place for it.

[Unretarded]

Blast 50 to 100 rounds thru it next time...it will not kill you.

Like a soft supple hand that see`s a shovel for the first time, your recoil sensativity will fade after a few good poudings........your arm might get sore, but there will be no permenant damage.

The next time you go and shoot fewer than 100 rounds it will seem less and less each time.........like a good set of calloused hands are impervious to the shovel handle, your shoulder will soon have the rifle begging for mercy.


Hope to get out to piru tomorrow, I will be the one with this .270........come on over and say hello.

[Bushwack44]

Thanks again all for the input. Learned quite a bit in the past 24 hours.

As I stated, I ordered the Limbsaver slip on and a PAST recoil pad. Should arrive today and I'll go to the range in a day or two to see if they make much difference.

The Limbsaver along w/ technique is what I'll focus on. I bought the PAST more out of curiosity. I'll give it a try but IMO, for range time fun, if I need to wear a PAST then the caliber isn't for me. Again, I'm not hunting - just enjoying a hobby.

I'm not oppose to selling the rifle if I can't enjoy it. The ultimate goal was to shoot 500...600+ yards with it. But since buying the rifle I've learned 600 yards can be done with a smaller caliber. If I was to sell, I'd most likely get another Remy (same stock) in 243 (unfortunately it doesn't come in 556/223 w/ a wood stock). I buy most of my firearms in pairs (its a psych issue that one day I'll bring up in therapy...if I ever feel the need to see a therapist). I really like the stock and bolt action of a Remy. Can't imagine not owning one - even if it only ends up in a case and displayed in the den.

[ar15barrels]

This morning decided to try the Remy I bought 16 months ago for the first time.

Wholly crap! I knew the recoil would be more significant than a 556 but after just a few rounds I stopped.
I couldn't control the rifle from rest as needed (recoil & flinching - flinching & recoil).

Some people want to start with a 300 magnum or a 338 lapua as their first bolt rifle.
When questioned on why, it's because they read on the interwebs that those cartridges have better ballistics.

Now you understand why we tell people to start with a heavy barrelled 308...

[ar15barrels]

Thanks for the feedback but a muzzle brake is not an option.
A 270 is loud enough.
Muzzle brake might help with recoil but even with ear plugs & muffs, it will not make for a fun time at the range for myself or others nearby.

A skinny barrel 270 will NEVER be a "fun" range gun.
A skinny barrel 270 is what you take hunting and fire maybe 1-3 rounds per day if you are lucky.

[ar15barrels]

If the 270 isn't the right fit. You could re-barrel it to 25-06.

243 would be a better choice.

[desert dog]

A skinny barrel 270 will NEVER be a "fun" range gun.
A skinny barrel 270 is what you take hunting and fire maybe 1-3 rounds per day if you are lucky.

Yep. I assumed that since you bought a hunting rifle, that was your intended use. Get a cheap R700 SPS in 308, or a heavy-barreled savage, and enjoy your time at the range.

[TMB 1]

243 would be a better choice.

Re-barrel a long action to 243 Winchester? Wouldn't 6mm Remington be better?

[Monster]

Re-barrel a long action to 243 Winchester? Wouldn't 6mm Remington be better?

It's done all the time and no 6mm brass is iffy to find. But then we have the 6mm-06.

[ar15barrels]

Re-barrel a long action to 243 Winchester? Wouldn't 6mm Remington be better?

Either would work fine, but 243 is way easier to get ammo/brass for.

[FishnHunt]

My 15 year old daughter shoots 270.
Try that Limb saver.
I think my tikka 06 with limb saver kicks less than the 270.
Some guns just don't recoil well.
If it's still too much get a tikka lite in 7-08 or 308 with limb saver. If you plan on hunting. If bench gun, go little heavier but not too heavy in case you want to take it hunting.
To teach my daughter not to flinch I would have her look away or stand behind her and either load a round or pretend to load it.
Handed it to her and watched her while off the Bench I would see if she flinches or holds steady and true.

That remmy looks nice, those medium rings for 40 mm scope?

[TMB 1]

It's done all the time and no 6mm brass is iffy to find. But then we have the 6mm-06.

Oh I didn't know that Been awhile since I've bought 6mm Rem brass, I have a ton of it.

[thegiff]

You can reload reduced loads easily enough. 16 to 20 grains of SR4759 and a Speer 100gn HP. Velocity from 1548 to 1915fps.

Or 20 to 24gn SR4759 with Speer 130gn BT, Spitzer or GS-SP. Velocity from 1651 to 1998 fps.

Either of these should be close to a .223 in recoil.

[thegiff]

I was poking around a bit more regarding this, Hodgdon has a pdf guide for any loads using H4895 here:

https://www.hodgdon.com/PDF/H4895%20Reduced%20Rifle%20Loads.pdf

This says, if H4895 is listed, take the max charge from their reloading data center, and multiply by .6 for your reduced load.

One thing I thought I should mention. I have a .270 pump rifle, it is really light. It came to me with a metal buttplate. Hurt to shoot, I would bruise up pretty bad in just a few shots. I put a limbsaver slip on pad and it made the recoil tolerable, but since the rifle is still really light I and some others got pretty nasty case of scopeeye with it now and then. One guy got cut pretty deep in the eyebrow. You need to pull a hunting rifle into the shoulder and firm up your upper body muscles to handle a light rifle.