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  • #16
    skyungjae
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2009
    • 574

    Originally posted by Standish
    How did this happen? That looks almost like an XM177E2 style flash suppressor. Not part of the barrel, so how did the end blow up?
    It probably happened when the user improperly installed that magpul furniture. Magpul stuff tends to cause stuff to go boom.

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    • #17
      ar15barrels
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jan 2006
      • 57195

      Originally posted by Standish
      How did this happen? That looks almost like an XM177E2 style flash suppressor. Not part of the barrel, so how did the end blow up?
      Some sort of blockage.
      Randall Rausch

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      • #18
        BillyGoatCrawler
        Veteran Member
        • Oct 2006
        • 2583

        That muzzle brake issue is baffling. See what I did there?

        Originally posted by ar15barrels
        Some sort of blockage.
        That's a given. But what kind of blockage in a flash suppressor like that? Mud would just blast out on the first shot. And the rifle looks clean, so not that.

        I don't understand how that one even happened. The dude had a rock jammed in his flash suppressor or something?
        Kunar Prov, A'stan '08-'09, 1-26 INF

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        • #19
          Carcassonne
          Veteran Member
          • Jul 2012
          • 4897

          Originally posted by Standish
          How did this happen? That looks almost like an XM177E2 style flash suppressor. Not part of the barrel, so how did the end blow up?
          My guess is someone thought it would be funny to put the muzzle under water.



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          • #20
            ar15barrels
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2006
            • 57195

            Originally posted by Standish
            But what kind of blockage in a flash suppressor like that? Mud would just blast out on the first shot. And the rifle looks clean, so not that.

            I don't understand how that one even happened. The dude had a rock jammed in his flash suppressor or something?
            Maybe it says what happened here:

            Randall Rausch

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            Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
            Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
            Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
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            • #21
              Whiterabbit
              Calguns Addict
              • Oct 2010
              • 7602

              I'm answering my own questions, given lack of guidance.

              Anyways, here's two more questions for you guys (Randall).

              #1 what is the consequence of an oversized hole in the brake? as in, 338 size hole and using it on a 6.5 (just an example)

              #2 if I can buy a brake (that I otherwise like) that is a 1" tube for a gun with a .75" barrel, nothing is stopping me from putting a 1/8" chamfer on the brake to mate up to the barrel, yes? given that, for aesthetic purposes, what angle do you recommend I set the compound to? I assume 45 degrees will NOT look attractive. or will it? what's a common angle to put on a brake body?

              Edit: actually three questions. If I time the brake myself, what do you suggest I time to? 10 degrees off TDC when screwed in by hand? Like a revolver barrel?
              Last edited by Whiterabbit; 04-21-2016, 5:12 PM.

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              • #22
                45R
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2005
                • 2028

                Thanks for the input on the 3 port Ross Schuler brake!
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                • #23
                  LynnJr
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 7959



                  WhiteRabbit
                  On your earlier question YES the forward facing holes are for noise reduction.
                  On the larger diameter hole you lose some efficiency but not that much. The larger diameter acts like an expansion chamber and usually the rear most ports do all the work.
                  And the larger diameter of the brake itself is a plus because it gives the escaping gasses a larger place to impinge upon.
                  On the timing issue if you go to far you can always back off the brake and peen the shoulder on the barrel.
                  It works the same way as tightening up the main caps on an engine.
                  Last edited by LynnJr; 05-20-2016, 10:15 PM.
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                  • #24
                    Whiterabbit
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 7602

                    Cool. That just leaves one question. What angle do you suggest i set the compound to to transition the larger diameter brake to barrel diameter? Looks like maybe 30 degrees in your pic?

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                    • #25
                      ar15barrels
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 57195

                      Originally posted by Whiterabbit
                      Cool. That just leaves one question. What angle do you suggest i set the compound to to transition the larger diameter brake to barrel diameter? Looks like maybe 30 degrees in your pic?
                      Try more like 10-15 degrees.
                      Randall Rausch

                      AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                      Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                      Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                      Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                      Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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                      • #26
                        BillyGoatCrawler
                        Veteran Member
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 2583

                        Originally posted by LynnJr
                        I think you missed on the picture. We are interested in what is left 1 foot.
                        Kunar Prov, A'stan '08-'09, 1-26 INF

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                        • #27
                          Whiterabbit
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 7602

                          Originally posted by ar15barrels
                          Try more like 10-15 degrees.
                          Thank you sir.

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                          • #28
                            killshot44
                            Veteran Member
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 4072

                            Standish, I'll bet that Playmate is from the Bush Days....and I'm not talking presidents.

                            Speaking of...Hef turned 90, is selling the mansion and the magazine went no nudity in February. The End of an Era.

                            /thread jack

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                            • #29
                              Whiterabbit
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 7602

                              Now I am looking at a brake that has a 1-14" thread at the base. The idea is you can shroud the brake to direct blast forward, away from the shooter. Like combining a brake AND a linear compensator.

                              Not very attractive, but it looks like it would be quite effective.

                              Would it reduce the effectiveness of the brake at all?

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                              • #30
                                Whiterabbit
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Oct 2010
                                • 7602

                                Also, they make a mini "Ross Schuler" brake like that, or a "weatherby accubrake" style brake. Any comment on which of those two styles is more effective?

                                Assuming dust kick-up was not an issue.

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