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  • #31
    CSACANNONEER
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    • Dec 2006
    • 44094

    Originally posted by as_rocketman
    That's not impressive, that's superhuman, even if it took 36 minutes. Sure you didn't sneak in an extra order of magnitude somewhere?
    Nope, I didn't sneak anything in. His wife later broke that record and then, a few years ago, he broke his wife's record with a 1.995" group at 1000 yards. Again, when I saw the original target I was taking about, 4 of the 5 were in approximately a 7/8" group! http://www.1moa.org/world-records.html
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    • #32
      6mmintl
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      • Apr 2008
      • 4822

      For some real mechanical solutions try this;

      1st. get some WWII Brass stripper clips, these feed much smoother then steel parkerized stripper clips.

      2nd. Take your bolt apart and polish the striker rod, cocking cam piece, firing pin, and firing pin retainer.

      3rd. Polish your bolt locking lug cam ramps, and extractor cam to override cartridge rims better.

      4. Polish any parts of the bolt where you see wear to the finish.

      5. Polish your cartridge ejector, Polish your root of bolt handle in all contact/wear areas.

      6. Take your magazine follower and polish all wear areas where it touches magazine box.

      7. Polish front and back of magazine box guiding rounds into and out of magazine.

      8. Use a good synthetic Grease (Hi-Temp wheel bearing grease).

      If you do not want to polish any parts of your historical/collectable rifles
      wear areas then you are not a serious military rifle competitor.

      That what serious rifle competitors have done since the invention of the 1903.

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      • #33
        penguin0123
        Veteran Member
        • Dec 2011
        • 3089

        Originally posted by milotrain
        What the heck kind of stripper clip were they using? I want some...

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        • #34
          milotrain
          Veteran Member
          • Apr 2011
          • 4301

          Penguin,

          In a previous Calguns thread. The best info I've found on them. Looks like they are impossible to find but could be built.
          weg: That device is obsolete now. They replaced it with wizards.
          frank: Wait a minute. There are more than one wizard? Is [are?] the wizard calibrated?

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          • #35
            as_rocketman
            CGSSA Leader
            • Jan 2011
            • 3057

            Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
            Nope, I didn't sneak anything in. His wife later broke that record and then, a few years ago, he broke his wife's record with a 1.995" group at 1000 yards. Again, when I saw the original target I was taking about, 4 of the 5 were in approximately a 7/8" group! http://www.1moa.org/world-records.html
            It is who I'm thinking of, then

            Still -- that's insane. Only thing I can figure is with such a rapid cadence, wind conditions didn't change at all. Must have been a crazy heat-resistant barrel as well.

            I should someday strive to shoot a similar group three times that size.
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            • #36
              CSACANNONEER
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Dec 2006
              • 44094

              Originally posted by as_rocketman
              It is who I'm thinking of, then

              Still -- that's insane. Only thing I can figure is with such a rapid cadence, wind conditions didn't change at all. Must have been a crazy heat-resistant barrel as well.

              I should someday strive to shoot a similar group three times that size.
              Of course it's insane but, Lee has spent a lot of time and money to learn the game and push the limits. While we do shoot spotter shots just prior to the 15 minutes we have to shoot a 5 shot group for record, the 2.608 group (with a 4 shot 7/8" group) was shot in the last 36 seconds of that 15 minutes. His barrel had cooled down since his spotter/warming shots but, he was waiting for the exact conditions he got and then, took advantage of the opportunity as soon as it presented itself.
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              • #37
                croue
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2013
                • 1255

                Originally posted by milotrain
                This is what I do. I've gotten pretty used to never letting go of the bolt and using my middle finger. Kind of like a punky teenager.
                I love my browning A-bolt for this. Never jams no matter how fast I run it. I think it's the non-circular cross section that makes it work so well. circular ones seem to be finnicky when you're moving fast and maybe a little off axis in your push forward.

                I bought a 22 bolt action to practice, but the bolt tends to jam if you don't cycle it perfectly straight. It's fine for practice, but I know I'm faster with my 270. I often just practice with dry fire to get my motion down, but you need live fire to know that you never lose sight of the target throughout the process. Ideally you should be nearly on target already as the bolt is closing and just watching for that stable moment to pressure the trigger.

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