Need to learn about bore guides and cleaning rods.....

[Lucky Scott]

Time to step up, and I need to buy a really good cleaning rod and bore guide for my remington 700 in 7mm remington magnum. I have been using regular rods for years, but I am buying a new barrel and the barrel maker recommends better stuff.
There are aluminum, brass, stainless, which are best?
What kind of bore guide is best?

[LynnJr]

Lucas and T K Nolan make good boreguides as do many custom suppliers.
On the rod you want it very stiff and long enough so it clears your stock. If it is too short you will bust your knuckles on the stock. Denny Phillips at Ivey makes a good rod as does BoreTech.
Stay away from the carbon fiber rods as they will shatter on you if you stick a tight patch.

[kmullins]

Lucas Bore Guide and a one-piece stainless rod.

[Lucky Scott]

I thought stainless would be too hard? I thought softer was better?
Am I wrong?

[bsumoba]

dewey

[splithoof]

Stay away from Aluminum; it can gall the interior of the barrel. A proper bore guide helps with this, Midway sells a Tipton branded guide that does a decent job, yet it does not cost much. I also like their one-piece cleaning rods with the swivel handles.
If your shooting takes you to the hunting fields, consider an Otis cleaning kit as well; it carries in a small pouch and uses a pull-through cable. I use one after a day/night of hog hunting before the trip back to HQ.

[Garandimal]

Harder material cuts softer material.

Barrel steel is hard.

Recommend segmented brass rods and jags, and like the Outer's product, but AL and coated steel are fine as well.

If you use brass or AL, just wipe it down to keep the impregnated grit off it.


Bore-snakes are a handy travel convenience, and Bore-guides are a hoax.




GR

[killshot44]

Bore guides a "hoax"?

That's laughable, as is using segmented rods with connections that can snag or come unscrewed inside the barrel.

Stainless on stainless can gall. Use a steel or coated rod with stainless barrels, the stiffer the better.

[Shakey]

[b1gdave32]

I use Boretech rods n guide, seem well made haven't had any issues.

[Win231]

I thought stainless would be too hard? I thought softer was better?
Am I wrong?

Two words: Pro Shot. They make the best cleaning rods. Polished stainless steel & brass bore guides. The bore guide prevents the rod from contacting the barrel. You can feel how effective it is when using it.

A soft cleaning rod allows dirt, copper particles & other fouling to become embedded in it.

[RandyD]

Most competitors, who have high end barrels, use a one piece coated rod with a bore guide. Dewey seems to be the most popular cleaning rod, and a possum hollow is a popular bore guide. You can order them through Sinclair's. A Dewey rod costs about $40.00, and a bore guide costs about $20.00. http://www.sinclairintl.com/gun-clea...prod25927.aspx

[Lucky Scott]

I sent a email to mike lucas about bore guide. Here is his response...

"Non available at this time. Thanks"

[Garandimal]

Bore guides a "hoax"?

That's laughable, as is using segmented rods with connections that can snag or come unscrewed inside the barrel.

Stainless on stainless can gall. Use a steel or coated rod with stainless barrels, the stiffer the better.

Anybody that would use a stainless-steel anything as a firearm maintenance tool should have their head examined.


Barrel steel is harder than brass.

Consequently, soft brass rod segments don't bother them.

And, after literally Thousands of cleanings w/ handy segmented rods? I've never had a problem w/ them.

In fact, it's nice to be able to shorten the rod for shorter barrels... so that they drive easier and flex less.


And Bore guides are a hoax. Barrel steel is harder than brass.

The Garand Collectors Association did a test using a Milspec parkerized steel segmented rod, driven at a gross angle off bore-line, for something like 10,000 cycles...? to get any measurable muzzle wear.

Ablation wears barrels, at both ends. The hotter, and therefore softer, the steel, and the hotter the load, the faster they wear.




GR

[kendog4570]

+ 100000 for segmented rods. Especially when 2 or three sections are wedged in the bore. How do you think gunsmiths' kids get through college??

Brass and aluminum are without a doubt softer than barrel steel. Very easy for them to pick up grit, which may or may not be harder than barrel steels, and become a lap.
Like to stay and chat but I have to go get my head examined.