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  • target_shot
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    • Jul 2015
    • 444

    Price Check: Model 70

    Hello All,

    I have a Model 70 I am looking at selling.

    I was under the impression that it was post-64, but I don't know enough about this firearm to tell the difference.

    Can someone school me? I would like to know 2 things:

    1) Value
    2) Production year & why that matters

    Here is a photo of the extractor, which is what I think matters? Also - the serial is G356XXX
    Last edited by target_shot; 02-01-2016, 12:44 PM.
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    R4570
    Junior Member
    • May 2010
    • 84

    yes looks like a pre 64 receiver as it has the claw extractor. after 1964 the bolts were push feed systems. many years later winchester did make a control feed receiver with the claw extractor. pre 64 winchester model 70's are valuable. through the serial number you can find out the year it was.made. what Caliber is it? on the low side. I would put a value of $1000.00. as long as it is not beat up.
    Rick
    Last edited by R4570; 02-01-2016, 4:56 PM.

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      rromeo
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      • Sep 2009
      • 6981

      I'd say a pre '64 is minimum of $900. A 30-06 or 270 is going to be your low end value.
      Never initiate force against another. That should be the underlying principle of your life. But should someone do violence to you, retaliate without hesitation, without reservation, without quarter, until you are sure that he will never wish to harm - or never be capable of harming - you or yours again.

      - from THE SECOND BOOK OF KYFHO
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        R4570
        Junior Member
        • May 2010
        • 84

        after clicking on the link the caliber and the design of the extractor show it not to be a pre 64 model 70. pre 64 extractors lay flat on the bolt. they do not have that hump in the front. I could be wrong but unless it has been rechambered to .300WSM that caliber was not invented back in 64. pre 64 model 70 winchester are more valuable in their original configuration.
        Rick
        Last edited by R4570; 02-01-2016, 5:15 PM.

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          rromeo
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          • Sep 2009
          • 6981

          By the serial number, it's probably a 2001 or so.
          Never initiate force against another. That should be the underlying principle of your life. But should someone do violence to you, retaliate without hesitation, without reservation, without quarter, until you are sure that he will never wish to harm - or never be capable of harming - you or yours again.

          - from THE SECOND BOOK OF KYFHO
          (Revised Eastern Sect Edition)

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            kendog4570
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            • Dec 2008
            • 5180

            Any M70 with a G serial is late production. One could get a black eye saying it, but push feeds for sure, and probably the current crop of claw feeds are better made receivers than any pre-64 gun.

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              kendog4570
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              • Dec 2008
              • 5180

              Originally posted by R4570
              ... the design of the extractor show it not to be a pre 64 model 70. pre 64 extractors lay flat on the bolt. they do not have that hump in the front...

              I do believe most, if not all have the hump.

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                rromeo
                Calguns Addict
                • Sep 2009
                • 6981

                Yeah, there is some difference, but most often the difference betweenold and new is that one is old while the other is new.
                Never initiate force against another. That should be the underlying principle of your life. But should someone do violence to you, retaliate without hesitation, without reservation, without quarter, until you are sure that he will never wish to harm - or never be capable of harming - you or yours again.

                - from THE SECOND BOOK OF KYFHO
                (Revised Eastern Sect Edition)

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                  1recluse
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                  • Sep 2010
                  • 425

                  Originally posted by kendog4570
                  Any M70 with a G serial is late production. One could get a black eye saying it, but push feeds for sure, and probably the current crop of claw feeds are better made receivers than any pre-64 gun.
                  And that is one of the dumbest things i have read lately, But just cause your a dealer and post a lot doesn't mean your an expert!


                  I apologize to kendog4570 for my uncalled for, rude comment! My preference will always be for the Pre 64 and it got the best of me!
                  Last edited by 1recluse; 02-02-2016, 1:59 PM.

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                    target_shot
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                    • Jul 2015
                    • 444

                    Ok, so post-64? Thanks everyone!


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                      UberPatriot
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                      • Jul 2012
                      • 2069

                      Found this on thehighroad.

                      Here: http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/i.../t-379025.html

                      mudstud
                      When Winchester started producing the Classics, they went ahead and started using up all those unused "G" prefix numbers before G899XXX, or whatever. Then they had to jump over previously used "G" prefixes, which is where the Classics then resume at around G240XXXX. This results in a lot of confusion, particularly among those who ignore the "G" prefix when looking up dates of manufacture. I personally own a Classic, which is a G10XXX, and manufactured in 1996, but it is a Custom Shop rifle, so the serial number is no doubt out of sync, since the Custom Shop may have had their own serial number ranges. So this only adds further to the confusion, since Winchester production grade rifles surely had progressed far beyond G10XXX by 1996, since they started manufacturing the Classic Super Grade in 1990, the Classic Featherweight in 1992, and the Classic Sporter in 1994.

                      Your G20XXX Super Grade, (not Custom Shop) was manufactured in the early 1990's.
                      Last edited by UberPatriot; 02-01-2016, 9:23 PM.
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                        target_shot
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                        • Jul 2015
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                        Originally posted by UberPatriot
                        Found this on thehighroad.

                        Here: http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/i.../t-379025.html

                        mudstud
                        When Winchester started producing the Classics, they went ahead and started using up all those unused "G" prefix numbers before G899XXX, or whatever. Then they had to jump over previously used "G" prefixes, which is where the Classics then resume at around G240XXXX. This results in a lot of confusion, particularly among those who ignore the "G" prefix when looking up dates of manufacture. I personally own a Classic, which is a G10XXX, and manufactured in 1996, but it is a Custom Shop rifle, so the serial number is no doubt out of sync, since the Custom Shop may have had their own serial number ranges. So this only adds further to the confusion, since Winchester production grade rifles surely had progressed far beyond G10XXX by 1996, since they started manufacturing the Classic Super Grade in 1990, the Classic Featherweight in 1992, and the Classic Sporter in 1994.

                        Your G20XXX Super Grade, (not Custom Shop) was manufactured in the early 1990's.

                        Wow.....thanks!

                        What would a good price range be?


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                        • #13
                          UberPatriot
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                          • Jul 2012
                          • 2069

                          Originally posted by target_shot
                          Wow.....thanks!

                          What would a good price range be?


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                          If you're not sure about your asking price start at $800, then if it doesn't sell for that lower the price until it does.

                          I'd trade you a Smith & Wesson M&P Shield 9 for it.
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                            target_shot
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                            • Jul 2015
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                            Originally posted by UberPatriot
                            If you're not sure about your asking price start at $800, then if it doesn't sell for that lower the price until it does.



                            I'd trade you a Smith & Wesson M&P Shield 9 for it.

                            Sounds good - I was asking $750 before this thread. Glad to hear I wasn't far off.

                            I appreciate it, but I already have an off-roster shield.

                            Thank you though, for the insight and valuable information!


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                              CandG
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                              • Apr 2014
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                              Wow, these things really hold their value! I just picked up a brand new M70 in 30-06 last year, and the price tag was about the same as the value on this early 90's model is. Pretty impressive.
                              Settle down, folks. The new "ghost gun" regulations probably don't do what you think they do.


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