Remington 700P (PSS ).223

[ap3572001]

What shouId expect to pay for an unfired older PSS in .223?
What barrel twist to they have?
With good/premium factory ammo and good optics what is the reasonable maximum effective range?

Thanks You .

[LynnJr]

Unfired around $900 with a 9 twist barrel.
Even though it has the H-S Precision stock with the aluminum bedding block they all seem to shoot better after skim bedding.
The other issue is the bolt handles tend to make contact with the stock.

[jetman624]

I have a 700P in 223 w/ 26" 1:9 twist barrel.

I have had the best shooting with hand loads using Varget powder and Berger 70 gr VLD bullets. I did have to have the chamber reamed a bit to get them to fit.

The only factory ammo I tried was Nosler stuff and it was auwful.

[6mmintl]

These rifles have a 1x12" twist rate and can only handle 62 grain soft point bullets, maybe a 70 grainer if flatbase and driven hard.

[prob]

I wouldn't pay more than $700, especially if it has been sitting in someone's safe or closet.

As far as effective range, that's hard to say. Some PSS rifles shoot very well and others don't. I have the .308 version and have never been able to find a load that shoots much better than an inch. Honestly, it's been a disappointing purchase and were I to do it over again I'd go with something else.

[LynnJr]

The first models back when they were Police Sniper Specials had a 12 twist and then that was changed to 9 twist when everybody started calling them Police Sharp Shooter rifles.
I have both and they all shoot 52-53 grain bullets well.
In my humble opinion if you need to shoot bullets over 60 grains go with a 6mm bore.

[LynnJr]

If your 308 is factory try the cheap $15 a box factory PMC 150 grain loads. Before I ran a different reamer in both of my 308's in PSS liked that ammo better than gold medal match.

[glockman19]

I wouldn't pay more than $700, especially if it has been sitting in someone's safe or closet.

As far as effective range, that's hard to say. Some PSS rifles shoot very well and others don't. I have the .308 version and have never been able to find a load that shoots much better than an inch. Honestly, it's been a disappointing purchase and were I to do it over again I'd go with something else.

I too think $700 is a fair and common price for the rifle. Add in bases, rings, scope, sling, and maybe bipod and you are looking at over $1,000.

[russ69]

I too think $700 is a fair and common price for the rifle. Add in bases, rings, scope, sling, and maybe bipod and you are looking at over $1,000.

I have an early PSS before they were sold to the public. They are a nice rifle but still basically a REM Varmint in flat black. I don't think I would let mine go for 700 dollars but you are getting close...

[ap3572001]

The PSS I am looking at is an unfired 1995 26 inch in .223
Where they always a 1/9 twist ? How can I find out when they went from 1/12 to 1/9?

[JMP]

The PSS I am looking at is an unfired 1995 26 inch in .223
Where they always a 1/9 twist ? How can I find out when they went from 1/12 to 1/9?

1:12 is very good for 45-55gr bullets. The 1:9 is used to shoot farther with heavier bullets, commonly 77gr. The thing about .223 is that bullets are shot in the 40-90gr range, which is an enormous spread and this is seen in the enormous spread in commonly used twist rates.

If you really want to shoot .223, you will probably want to just start with a blank of your contour, length, and twist. This is especially true if you want to shoot it at longer distances. The problem is that .223 is a very poor cartridge for long ranges (1,000+). Then, once you start looking at the heavy bullets that will get you range, you'll find that you'd be in much better shape with a 6mm. With that said, .223 is an exceptional cartridge to learn to shoot in the wind since it blows around. Since most people don't have quick and easy access to a 1,000 yard+ range, the .223 allows you to learn at a low cost and provides more of a challenge at intermediate distances like 400-600 yards.

[hambam105]

Why are you concerned about the initial purchase price of the less than $1,000 rifle when range fees, ammunition & travel expenses to a range that affords shooting beyond 300 yards, will cost $100 dollars for a single day of shooting?