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  • Sethinator
    Junior Member
    • Sep 2015
    • 22

    I messed up on my Mosin Nagant :( advice please

    It has been maybe a year or so since I last shot my mosin and I always try to clean my guns the day of or after shooting them. So today I am just going through the arsenal and once again it has been about a year maybe since I have even looked at the mosin and noticed RUST! on the muzzle so I scream noooooooo silently in my head and break out the cleaning supplies.

    I start out using the little cleaning patches with hoppes and they are all coming out black. But at the same time the patches are also coming out pretty torn up leaving plenty of threads on the inside of the barrel. I have not expierenced this much before. Then at the end I use the little wire brush to get all the threads and and now my wire brush is covered in the threads.

    I am not an expert or Anything and am looking for advice on the truley best way to clean and maintain a mosin. Thank you!
  • #2
    Cactuscooler
    Member
    • Feb 2011
    • 184

    Did you shoot surplus or corrosive ammo without cleaning it?

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    • #3
      Sethinator
      Junior Member
      • Sep 2015
      • 22

      Originally posted by Cactuscooler
      Did you shoot surplus or corrosive ammo without cleaning it?
      Yeah some of the ammo from the green tin can

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      • #4
        Mr Wizard
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2009
        • 617

        Welcome to Calguns,
        You ruined your rifle. Send it to me and I'll dispose of it properly.

        Just kidding; If it's just surface rust on the lands and grooves, you should be able to fire a couple rounds of jacketed ammo through it next time you're at the range and it should clear most of the rust out.
        If you use corrosive surplus ammo, be sure to pour some Windex or other ammonia based product down the barrel before leaving the range. It will dissolve the salts from the ammo that usually cause rust. Then use some Hoppes or similar product when you have time to clean it properly.
        Make sure to use a humidifier or silica bag in you're safe to protect your guns from moisture too.

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        • #5
          Sethinator
          Junior Member
          • Sep 2015
          • 22

          Originally posted by Mr Wizard
          Welcome to Calguns,
          You ruined your rifle. Send it to me and I'll dispose of it properly.

          Just kidding; If it's just surface rust on the lands and grooves, you should be able to fire a couple rounds of jacketed ammo through it next time you're at the range and it should clear most of the rust out.
          If you use corrosive surplus ammo, be sure to pour some Windex or other ammonia based product down the barrel before leaving the range. It will dissolve the salts from the ammo that usually cause rust. Then use some Hoppes or similar product when you have time to clean it properly.
          Make sure to use a humidifier or silica bag in you're safe to protect your guns from moisture too.

          Lol thank you my friend,
          Windex down the barrel is an interesting thought. Will definetly give that a go next time.
          I don't currently have a safe, I have all my guns in the hard plastic protective cases with the foam inside, I had never thought of silica bags but do you think that would be a good idea inside of a case or just useless?

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          • #6
            Cactuscooler
            Member
            • Feb 2011
            • 184

            Originally posted by Sethinator
            Yeah some of the ammo from the green tin can
            My younger bro did the same thing. That surplus ammo has corrosive primers that leave salt behind.. after a year, I would say the damage is done. My Bros barrel was orange rust looks like a sewer pipe. You have to clean it the same day, ammonia or boiling water to nuturalize the salts.

            You could try metal rescue or some type of rust remover but more than likely it's pitted. Sorry buddy...

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            • #7
              1911ShooterPhil
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2010
              • 1037

              Here's an idea: send it to a gunsmith for a professional cleaning. I think I may know a few. --1911ShooterPhil
              "A gun is a tool. No better and no worse than any other tool: an axe, a shovel, or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that." Shane (1953)

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              • #8
                phoman45
                Junior Member
                • Jun 2013
                • 41

                Clean it with ammonia and hops and run oil patches

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                • #9
                  SkyHawk
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 23510

                  Originally posted by Sethinator
                  I don't currently have a safe, I have all my guns in the hard plastic protective cases with the foam inside, I had never thought of silica bags but do you think that would be a good idea inside of a case or just useless?
                  Storing guns in foam lined cases is a bad idea - the foam is a giant moisture trap. Has ruined many a gun.
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                  • #10
                    ElvenSoul
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 17431

                    Pissed off the wife put it in the bath tub.

                    Scrub the gun all down with hot soapy water. Dry completely and wipe down with oil.

                    Do this every time after you shoot commie rust monster ammo.
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                    • #11
                      RNE228
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2013
                      • 2458

                      I have spent years shooting black powder. What about using some of the black powder cleaners on it?

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                      • #12
                        ElvenSoul
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 17431

                        Oh use TSP soap it rinses off clean.
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                        • #13
                          ElvenSoul
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 17431

                          That old powder burns off it leaves a salt. Salts cause rust. Soapy wate removes salts.
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                          • #14
                            Divernhunter
                            Calguns Addict
                            • May 2010
                            • 8753

                            When I shoot corrosive ammo at the range I run a few windex patches down the barrel while it is still warm. You would be surprised just how much crud you will push out.
                            Then when I get home I use Wipe-out followed by Sweets 7.62 or just about anything but #9 which is a waste of money/time. There are so many better products on the market. Sometimes I only use the wipe-out.
                            Follow by some good oil and you are done without needing to worry about problems.

                            Hot water will remove the salts, but not the trapped ones under the jacket material. Hot soapy water will do it faster and more complete. Think of it like washing you dirty hands. Plain water will work ok with enough effort. Soapy water will do the same but faster and a bit cleaner. That is why I always use hot soapy water on my muzzle loaders and windex(or other brands) on my Mil Surplus rifles when shooting corrosive ammo. I do not shoot corrosive ammo in my other firearms.
                            If you have a rough bore(tearing the patches) try some J-B Bore paste on the bore. I have found that wrapping a brush with a patch and applying the paste to that will help on some bores.
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                            • #15
                              prob
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2006
                              • 1354

                              Cleaning guns after shooting corrosive ammunition does not present much more difficulty than if you were shooting non corrosive ammunition. Simply pour some boiling water down the bore, run a few patches through to dry it out, and then clean as normal.

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