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  • verrlara
    Junior Member
    • May 2015
    • 61

    Help me choose a bolt gun...

    I am wanting to shoot coyotes... And save the pelts. So I need something with a moderate reach. (400-500 yards) yet tiny enough that it won't blow a grapefruit size hole. I was thinking 204, 223 or .17 hmr(yes I know this is the wrong forum for the little rimfire). No semi auto or lever guns. Just bolters.

    Budget 500 dollars... I like accutriggers!

    GO!


  • #2
    killshot44
    Veteran Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 4072

    None of the above unless you like tracking wounded animals...
    22-250 or 6BR would launch heavier bullets with better range.

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    • #3
      pdq_wizzard
      Veteran Member
      • May 2008
      • 3813

      Originally posted by killshot44
      None of the above unless you like tracking wounded animals...
      22-250 or 6BR would launch heavier bullets with better range.
      223 will launch heavier bullets than a 22-250, most 22-250 have a 1:12 twist so the best you can do is 55gr or less. you can get a .223 in 1:9.

      I would look at the .243 you can get ammo anywhere they are a nice soft shooting gun, good to well over 400 yards (on a song dog) using 70gr pills
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      • #4
        TMB 1
        Calguns Addict
        • Dec 2012
        • 7153

        This would be a better 17 or maybe get it in 222 Remington. They also make it with a thumb hole laminate stock and regular laminate stock.

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        • #5
          Justin21
          Member
          • Apr 2014
          • 288

          Get the savage hog hunter in 223 or perhaps the ruger American in 223

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          • #6
            milotrain
            Veteran Member
            • Apr 2011
            • 4301

            The triple duce passed 300 yards sounds like a bad idea, why even bother when it's so close to the 223. Your budget puts you in compromise territory, and a 223 with a 1:8 twist is a good one.
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            • #7
              JMP
              Internet Warrior
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Feb 2012
              • 17056

              With the Savage, just swap the barrel with the nut. You 223 bolt will be good for 6x45.



              This one:
              6mm X 223

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              • #8
                LynnJr
                Calguns Addict
                • Jan 2013
                • 7958

                220 Swift or 22-250 you want something fast and flat and to save the pelts a GameKing bullet.
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                • #9
                  killshot44
                  Veteran Member
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 4072

                  The .223 can't push a 55 or 62 grain to the 3,700 range a 22-250 will, and it keeps more energy as it's a bit overbore. Hits like a grenade with minimal fur damage.

                  Granted a .223 will work and are probably easier to find ready to ship.

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                  • #10
                    scotty99
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 1184

                    I think .243 is the right answer. Widely available, good ballistics, and enough bullet weight to put them down right now.


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                    • #11
                      verrlara
                      Junior Member
                      • May 2015
                      • 61

                      I guess I was mistake in the original post about the reach of the calibers I was interested in. If we ignore the range that I put in my OP would the listed calibers be good for coyotes?


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                      • #12
                        eric n
                        Member
                        • Oct 2013
                        • 254

                        They all will work. I would put a 22 250 on the top of the list and take off the 17hmr if it were me. Stay off the shoulder bone and you will be fine

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                        • #13
                          LynnJr
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 7958

                          Originally posted by verrlara
                          I guess I was mistake in the original post about the reach of the calibers I was interested in. If we ignore the range that I put in my OP would the listed calibers be good for coyotes?
                          The 500 yard range is huge so if you remove it the 20 caliber fits perfectly.
                          I would have listed the 6BR but I thought you put a price limit in your post as well
                          Lynn Dragoman, Jr.
                          Southwest Regional Director
                          Unlimited Range Shooters Association (URSA)
                          www.unlimitedrange.org
                          Not a commercial business.
                          URSA - Competition starts at 2000 yards!

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                          • #14
                            RNE228
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2013
                            • 2458

                            I would do 22-250 in a Varmint weight action.

                            FWIW, I have a family member that has hunted coyote, and prairie dogs for decades. He loads 55grfmj and uses a Mini-14 from that he got in the 1970's for that purpose. The AR guys scream about the Mini not being accurate, but that old rifle has shot a lot of coyotes for pelts. I had opportunity to shoot some prairie dogs with it in Wyoming. While not as accurate as a varmint weight bolt gun, it sure works great.

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                            • #15
                              Divernhunter
                              Calguns Addict
                              • May 2010
                              • 8753

                              The 204/223/22-250 or a 6mm(243/6mmRem) all would work fine at proper ranges. The 6mm/243 would be better at long range(400+).
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