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  • tigerpan
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2012
    • 2195

    Is something wrong with my lever action?

    Hi,
    I just went to range today with my new marlin 1894 SS 44 mag.
    After box of 44 spl, I realize there is something wrong. One side of the brass is burned. I don't know is the rifle or the reload ammo.
    See picture
    The reload ammo is
    Starline 44 spl
    240 lead bullet
    Hs6 5.8 to 6.5 grain
    AOL is 1.595
    Last edited by tigerpan; 10-30-2015, 4:11 PM.
  • #2
    smle-man
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2007
    • 10580

    Originally posted by tigerpan
    Hi,
    I just went to range today with my new marlin 1894 SS 44 mag.
    After box of 44 spl, I realize there is something wrong. One side of the brass is burned. I don't know is the rifle or the reload ammo.
    See picture
    The reload ammo is
    Starline 44 spl
    240 lead bullet
    Hs6 5.8 to 6.5 grain
    AOL is 1.595
    Low pressure load not sealing completely. Nothing wrong with your rifle.

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    • #3
      pacrat
      I need a LIFE!!
      • May 2014
      • 10280

      Originally posted by smle-man
      Low pressure load not sealing completely. Nothing wrong with your rifle.


      ^^^WHAT HE SAID^^^

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      • #4
        tigerpan
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2012
        • 2195

        Originally posted by smle-man
        Low pressure load not sealing completely. Nothing wrong with your rifle.
        I use lee auto disk powder measure, set up for 6.5grain. The powder measure is not accurate. Is the ammo safe to shoot, or I need pull the bullet?

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        • #5
          Jeepergeo
          Veteran Member
          • Feb 2012
          • 3506

          Buy some new, quality, factory load ammo and try it to rule out the gun itself. Most likely, you have low pressure reloads, but it could be a poor quality machine job on the chamber.
          Benefactor Life Member, National Rifle Association
          Life Member, California Rifle and Pistol Association

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          • #6
            tigerpan
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2012
            • 2195

            Originally posted by Jeepergeo
            Buy some new, quality, factory load ammo and try it to rule out the gun itself. Most likely, you have low pressure reloads, but it could be a poor quality machine job on the chamber.
            Thanks,
            I did shot some 44 mag factory HP ammo. I wil check the brass to see any difference.
            The marlin has Jm mark, the action is ok
            Last edited by tigerpan; 10-30-2015, 4:11 PM.

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            • #7
              nickel plate
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2012
              • 2104

              You say "my new Marlin" and it has a "JM" roll mark? What are the first three or four digits in the serial number on the top tang? Just trying to verify that you own a true older NOS Marlin before Remington bought them out.

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              • #8
                kendog4570
                Calguns Addict
                • Dec 2008
                • 5180

                Run em hotter and that smokey stuff will clear up. Try 2400, H110 or 296 powder.

                Be advised, a .44 Mag carbine with full house loads kills at both ends.

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                • #9
                  tigerpan
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 2195

                  Originally posted by kendog4570
                  Run em hotter and that smokey stuff will clear up. Try 2400, H110 or 296 powder.

                  Be advised, a .44 Mag carbine with full house loads kills at both ends.
                  I shot some hotter load, it kick hard not as bad as my 870

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                  • #10
                    tigerpan
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 2195

                    Originally posted by nickel plate
                    You say "my new Marlin" and it has a "JM" roll mark? What are the first three or four digits in the serial number on the top tang? Just trying to verify that you own a true older NOS Marlin before Remington bought them out.
                    I bought used, but new condition with 20 round fired. First 4 # 9220xxxx, I don't think Remington makes stainless steel marlin.

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                    • #11
                      nickel plate
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 2104

                      Originally posted by tigerpan
                      I bought used, but new condition with 20 round fired. First 4 # 9220xxxx, I don't think Remington makes stainless steel marlin.
                      With your serial numbers provided, your 1894 S.S. Marlin .44 Magnum was produced in or near around 2008-just under the cusp of Remington buying out Marlin which turned out to be a production line travesty as far as quality control and customer service.

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                      • #12
                        Wrangler John
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 1799

                        I can confirm that your photo show a typical result of low pressure loads in a straight wall case headspacing on the case rim.

                        Below is a photo of .35-348 Winchester Ackley Improved brass after being fireformed with too light a load. There wasn't enough pressure to seal the necks and blow the shoulder forward, so gas escaped, flowed backward and collapsed the case. The case on the left is properly formed. This case also headspaces on the rim.



                        At the range I usually clean off powder residue on cases at the time of firing them, when the fouling is still soft, using a NON-AMMONIA bore solvent, such as Bore Tech's Eliminator, then wipe them with a paper towel, saves tumbler time. On bottle necked cases there is a tale told by the smudge; as load testing progresses, a point will be reached where powder fouling will produce just a little black ring about mid-way down the neck - that usually coincides with the point where groups shrink and efficiency begins. Even with a mid-range load, say 8.5 grains of Unique over a 240-250 grain cast bullet, the .44 Magnum cases should be much cleaner after firing.

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                        • #13
                          MongooseV8
                          Veteran Member
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 4426

                          Interesting, I have never seen that. Thanks for the posting the picture John.

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                          • #14
                            Shiloh
                            Member
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 140

                            Been shooting and reloading for years and still learn new things every day. That's real interesting info.
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                            • #15
                              tigerpan
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 2195

                              I find out the problem of my reload. The Lee disk measure leaking powder. Maybe I should buy a different powder measure or use different powder .

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