Tube gun build?

[benjamac]

So, I have a few rifles that I shoot and am happy with (ar, .308 bolt, .357 mag single shot) and I am wanting a more long-term project. Because I will be buying parts over the next year or so, budget is not a huge concern- mostly I just want a rifle that will shoot past 1000m comfortably, and makes my **** hard when I look at it.

Keeping that in mind, I have decided that I need a tube gun.

I assume that after I am done buying my barrel, action, trigger, and chassis I will need someone to put it all together and adjust it all properly. I also would like to consult with that someone on exactly which parts I should buy in order for the whole thing to come together in an ideal manner.

Does anyone know a gunsmith with experience building tube guns? Specifically the Eliseo chassis?

Thanks a ton calguns,
B

[russ69]

...Does anyone know a gunsmith with experience building tube guns? Specifically the Eliseo chassis?...

Gary Eliseo. Just a guess. Or you can try: http://www.tubegun.net. Both guys can give you a list of smiths that can put one together.

[kendog4570]

Assembling Gary's stuff is pretty straightforward. Assuming you are using a Rem 700 or custom clone, your barrel will need to be installed using his round lug, which comes with his stocks. Other than that there are no mysteries or secrets to assembling his. A while back I put together a "hybrid" that was basically a competition butt stock fitted to a tactical chassis. The use is primarily for NRA X-course, but the owner wanted to use AICS mags. The trigger well is quite roomy and should take any trigger, but I would give him a quick call to check if you have a specific trigger in mind.

The only modifications I have ever had to make to one of his chassis was a Tikka to get the safety to operate properly. I believe since then he has addressed that..

[1859sharps]

would be interested to know if the tubegun concept suffers from the same issue as traditional stocks that have an aluminum biding block as far as contact with the receiver.

[milotrain]

the same issue as traditional stocks that have an aluminum biding block as far as contact with the receiver.

Which is what? There are two schools of thought with the tube gun, screw it in with a recoil disk (contact points are the two receiver screws and then 4 set screws on the top to take up play) or glue it in. A glued in receiver doesn't need a recoil disk or or lug, but it means typically that you chamber barrels without space for a lug, or you glue the action in a little forward so that the recoil lug floats.

In either case you have a system that does not need to be bedded ever.

[plsmyk]

Here is some info for you:

http://www.6mmbr.com/gunweek091.html

http://riflemansjournal.blogspot.com/2009/11/equipment-borden-tubegun-special-action.html

http://riflemansjournal.blogspot.com/2009/08/equipment-gluing-in-tubegun-stocks.html

http://riflemansjournal.blogspot.com/2009/11/equipment-adjusting-tubegun-stock.html

[russ69]

would be interested to know if the tubegun concept suffers from the same issue as traditional stocks that have an aluminum biding block as far as contact with the receiver.

I think the tube guns are glue-ins. That is the whole idea, I think, bonding the receiver to the tube to stiffen the whole assembly.

[benjamac]

The eliseo one has a lug (maybe not all of the models though). From the info above and the PM's I've received, I think I may be able to put it together myself, with some patience, set up time, and proper components (i.e. ready to drop in).

Hopefully the vendors I end up working with will be able to tell me if their parts will need any machining when they arrive.

[milotrain]

Again an Eliseo can either have the action glued in (in which case you need no tools), or you can use the recoil disk and no glue in which case you need a barrel wrench, action wrench, and headspace gauges (and a mic for checking the current lug).

[kendog4570]

Don't forget a lathe, also. His lugs need to be FIT to your barrel/bolt/receiver. They are thicker than stock Rem barrel brackets.

[G SEDAN]

talking about tube guns, then talking about something that makes your _ _ _ _ hard, I'm extremely uncomfortable with this scenario. LOL

[milotrain]

I'm pretty sure Gary will send you a lug ground to whatever dimension you want. I planned to make my own and just lap/scrape them or have Randall grind them. That is a benefit to gluing them in, no lug to worry about, it's also a good reason to rebarrel when mounting into a tube chassis.

[707electrician]

I'm pretty sure Gary will send you a lug ground to whatever dimension you want.

This is true. Gary is a great guy too. He sent me my recoil lug so I could have my barrel and action done and put together while I was waiting for the rest of the chassis. Putting the whole thing together is a piece of cake

[OpenSightsOnly]

Do peeps in the tactical/precision rifle paradigm use this set-up?

Seems like this platform is focused on folks who shoot HP or long range

[milotrain]

Do peeps in the tactical/precision rifle paradigm use this set-up?

Seems like this platform is focused on folks who shoot HP or long range

That's the question right? I mean Gary does, and most of the guys at BRRC who shot Gary's tactical matches do. But outside of that I don't know how many do. It may be market share, or total lack of advertising on Gary's part. Certainly the platform is capable.