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  • Tigertamer
    Junior Member
    • May 2015
    • 4

    .06 Winchester 1917.

    I just took my Dads deer rifle out of the Safe to see what it was.
    it says U.S. Model of 1917. Winchester #64xxx with about a 26"
    barrel. It's 30.06 ca. and has a modified stock on it. Can any one
    give me a quick rundown on the history of this gun. He was in
    WW2. Thanks in advance.
  • #2
    G-Man WC
    In Memoriam
    • Oct 2005
    • 10991

    Here's some light reading for you.
    -g



    With millions of “Doughboys” heading for France during World War I, the United States needed rifles. Thankfully the Pattern 1914 Enfield was ready for mass production and was adopted by the U.S. as the Model of 1917.
    If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.
    -Samuel Adams

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    • #3
      Divernhunter
      Calguns Addict
      • May 2010
      • 8753

      It is an oldie but goodie.
      Hang on to it and enjoy shooting it. It will probably be a bit on the heavy side compared to more modern(commercial) rifles and they will probably outshoot it.
      That said it was(is) your dads and that is family history. I have my dads 1903A3 rifle he bought in the early 1950's for $14.95 and will never sell it. It is all original other than arsenal rebuild and stamped as such.

      Enjoy shooting it.
      A 30cal will reach out and touch them. A 50cal will kick their butt.
      NRA Life Member, NRA certified RSO & Basic Pistol Instructor, Hunter, shooter, reloader
      SCI, Manteca Sportsmen Club, Coalinga Rifle Club, Escalon Sportsmans Club, Waterford Sportsman Club & NAHA Member, Madison Society member

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      • #4
        ducky_0811
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2013
        • 759

        They can be VERY accurate depending on how worn the barrel may be. A buddy of mine picked one up and it shot terrible at first until I suggest he slug the barrel. He then loaded with .311 bullets he had for an enfield and he was shooting 1" groups consistently with the iron sights.
        They make awesome hunting rifles, super fast bolt for follow up shots.

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        • #5
          rmfool
          Member
          • Feb 2011
          • 114

          I just pick one of these up too bad my wifes grandfather cut the barrel down took off the rear site and drilled it for scope mounts and did some work on the stock. Guess that what happened many years ago, they didn't think they were ever gonna be anything special.

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          • #6
            G-Man WC
            In Memoriam
            • Oct 2005
            • 10991

            Originally posted by rmfool
            I just pick one of these up too bad my wifes grandfather cut the barrel down took off the rear site and drilled it for scope mounts and did some work on the stock. Guess that what happened many years ago, they didn't think they were ever gonna be anything special.
            At the time is was most likely a $10 surplus buy turned into hunting rifle.
            I think a lot of smiths were converting these old war rifles back in the day.
            I've seen a few that have the same stock\pad that look errily alike.
            I have one apart now on the bench for cleaning and feeding the dry stock.
            I'll post a pic when I get it done and ready to test.
            -g
            If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.
            -Samuel Adams

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            • #7
              offrdmania
              Veteran Member
              • Mar 2008
              • 4053

              I also have one which was my grandfathers. Luckily, only the stock was sporterized and the rear sight leafs havent been taken down and the barrel hasnt been touched. A new military stock and it will be back to its old WWI self. They lose value once those rear sight leafs are taken down, then you might as well put a good rear sight on it and a really nice sporter stock on it and use the ***** out of it!





              Last edited by offrdmania; 05-24-2015, 8:24 AM.
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              • #8
                G-Man WC
                In Memoriam
                • Oct 2005
                • 10991

                I'm looking for an original stock to restore mine.
                Like yours, it still retains the orig sights.
                Dated Dec 1917 Rem 45,000 made
                -g
                If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.
                -Samuel Adams

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                • #9
                  dvcrsn
                  Junior Member
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 88

                  what is nice about the M1917 is that they have very strong actions--they have been rechambered into 300mag & 416 Rigby

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                  • #10
                    bcrich
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2008
                    • 1159

                    I have one that looks just like yours Gman! The last inch of the barrel is practically a smoothbore but surprisingly enough it still shoots ok.

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                    • #11
                      G-Man WC
                      In Memoriam
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 10991

                      Originally posted by bcrich
                      I have one that looks just like yours Gman! The last inch of the barrel is practically a smoothbore but surprisingly enough it still shoots ok.
                      Counterbored like so many Mosins I'm guessing.
                      I've seen a lot of the sportalized stocks and pads that look all alike.
                      I'm thinking some handy smith or company was buying them by the
                      truckload doing conversions.
                      I had taken mine apart on Friday. Inside the stock, the barrel channel it appeared handmade with many chisel marks. Not smooth at all.
                      I've had it for many years (like many C&R's I have) and it's unfired my myself
                      as of yet. I would like to restock it back to it's original configuration.
                      -g
                      If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.
                      -Samuel Adams

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                      • #12
                        offrdmania
                        Veteran Member
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 4053

                        Stocks are plentiful but a complete one with upper handguards and metal hardware tends to run close to $400. Worth more than a whole rifle if you ever plan to resell it but definitely worth it if you plan to hand on to the rifle forever since its a family heirloom
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